The Population Problem

With prosperity comes lower birth rates. As more “third world” countries becoming more economically stable, due to global manufacturing constantly seeking cheaper productivity, they generate lower birth rates, too.

Because it’s generational, and global, we often miss the signposts that the data already provide. (See multiple examples from Hans Rosling on YouTube/TedTalks) One such data point is the washing machine! Yes, that’s not an autocorrect!

The biggest thing we have to fear is demographics, the aging population bulge, and the desire of liberal economies to provide social entitlements to the aged while a decreasing working age population is expected to pick up the tab...while screaming blue murder about how taxation is killing them and the prior generation had driven up the cost of everything as their demand bubble drove down supply and increased prices!

I won’t get into immigration right and wrongs, just wanted to pint people towards some brilliant data, and even better data presentation than they’ve probably ever seen before.
 
We don't promote and instill the fundamentals of a supportive family structure and teach the value of bringing up a stable family and incentivise it.

Instead we've created a culture where a couple have to both work to get by, where responsibility and parenting are not taught and trained, where a woman choosing family over career is anti-feminist and condoning the "patriarchy", where love is quick and easy and romanticism and idealism is the way to live and where the punishment for it going wrong leaves men in the abyss of facing suicide as the only way out of the intolerable burden.

No surprise it's the immigrants from parts of the world with old-fashioned views that provide the population spurts. It has its downside with their fundamentalist, outdated, less democratic beliefs though.
 
Murph said:
I read an article a while ago that stated England (not the UK as a whole) was the most densely populated country in Europe.
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It’s up there for sure. Eng 432 but Netherlands 580 or something (people per km2) apparently. UK overall 275.

Not that it matters, but I’m not sure this is politics. It’s certainly off topic though.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
We don't promote and instill the fundamentals of a supportive family structure and teach the value of bringing up a stable family and incentivise it.

Instead we've created a culture where a couple have to both work to get by, where responsibility and parenting are not taught and trained, where a woman choosing family over career is anti-feminist and condoning the "patriarchy", where love is quick and easy and romanticism and idealism is the way to live and where the punishment for it going wrong leaves men in the abyss of facing suicide as the only way out of the intolerable burden.

No surprise it's the immigrants from parts of the world with old-fashioned views that provide the population spurts. It has its downside with their fundamentalist, outdated, less democratic beliefs though.
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Many of those beliefs are based of the old agrarian model of have many, many children to help work the land (knowing some will die before adulthood), and the next generation takes care of the last one.

Instead, since the Industrial Revolution, we have adopted a system whereby the farm became the factory, and now the office cubicle, we are all beholden to quarterly profits, and productivity has outpaced wages to the point where the FOMO imperative requires two incomes, and thus children become a problem to be solved...if you care to have the “problem” in the first place.

UBI sounds like a hint of a panacea, but it MUST be tied to providing service to society. The notion that UBI becomes the new social welfare paradigm cannot be allowed to get even a nose in the tent.

One cannot abstain from society yet expect to reap its rewards.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Many of those beliefs are based of the old agrarian model of have many, many children to help work the land (knowing some will die before adulthood), and the next generation takes care of the last one.

Instead, since the Industrial Revolution, we have adopted a system whereby the farm became the factory, and now the office cubicle, we are all beholden to quarterly profits, and productivity has outpaced wages to the point where the FOMO imperative requires two incomes, and thus children become a problem to be solved...if you care to have the “problem” in the first place.

UBI sounds like a hint of a panacea, but it MUST be tied to providing service to society. The notion that UBI becomes the new social welfare paradigm cannot be allowed to get even a nose in the tent.

One cannot abstain from society yet expect to reap its rewards.
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It's why I believe in introducing a national social service, delivering community projects and support and instilling that giving back, polite, respectful and generous spirit that should be the bedrock of being British as opposed to the selfish bastard syndrome inflicting us these days.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
It's why I believe in introducing a national social service, delivering community projects and support and instilling that giving back, polite, respectful and generous spirit that should be the bedrock of being British as opposed to the selfish bastard syndrome inflicting us these days.
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ALWAYS been a proponent of National Service. Other countries accomplish it and there’s no reason Britain couldn’t. Learn some life lessons and get some service experience to open the eyes of these young men and women.

Sad to see some of what has happened to too much of England, esp some aspects of Manc, since I left to come here.

Turn on your TV and it’s laid out in front of you. Shocking descent of what was left of the British culture for which we were once world renowned.
 
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