The Problem is Us, The Fans

rickmcfc said:
I have been thinking about this for a while now. I just cant belive all of the shite we give as a fan base. Everyone of us has done it at some point, shout abuse, be really pissed off, wish we hadnt of sacked manager A or we should attempt to get Manager B. Its all total total bullshit, and it has to improve. Everytime we have a bad spell we cant all start getting annoyed and calling for the managers head etc. These are the facts.

1) We are the richest team in the world, we can buy anyone out there.
2) We have a very good manager who is a proven winner, as a player, and more importantly as a manager.
3) We have had so many managers in the past 25 years, it is cringeworthy.
4) This is not Roberto Mancini's team, it is still Mark Hughes' team
5) Is 2 months really enough time to judge a manager on?
5) We have not won a trophy for 35 years.

We, me, you as fans deserve the best, and given time, that is what we will get. Rome wasnt built in a day, it was planned, took time so it was completed correctly and to the highest standard.

This is exactly what Manchester City and Sheik Mansour have planned for us. It will happen. Certainly not today, probably not tomorrow, but after that, who knows - but it will happen i am sure. This is where we all need to change, lets not jump and pounce on the team when things are not going our way. They need us to be behind them in everyway possible, and with each moan and groan from the stands, they feel knocked down a little more.

We need to change and change now, starting at chelsea on saturday. So lets get behind the boys instead of giving them so much shit constantly. We are in a great position and we wont fuck it up, especially if we get onside with the team for once. Lets not do the old "typical city" attitude. Pull together boys

Here here
 
We have been spoilt by the takeover and all of the money being splashed on supposed great players,we have come to expect almost immediate success which is not realistic but you can understand the frustration,luckily some of us experienced the 60s/70s glory years which was brought about by the genius of Albert Alexander,Joe Mercer and Malcom Allison,I hope that somewhere in the near future all blues get to have a tropy winning side to support.
 
blumoonrises said:
rickmcfc said:
Cheers. I just wish more people would see it this way!!!

You just don't get it do you..? Myself and others have pointed out plenty of times that the OTT reactions from "fans" on this forum do NOT represent the majority of match going SUPPORTERS.!
The players do NOT get constant shit from the terraces like you claim, most of us always back the team and there has certainly not been any hint of collective dissatisfaction at the games, if you are a ST holder you would already know this, so what are you talkin about and who exactly are you appealing to..?
You clearly sit in the 3rd tier then or the family stand
 
rickmcfc said:
I have been thinking about this for a while now. I just cant belive all of the shite we give as a fan base. Everyone of us has done it at some point, shout abuse, be really pissed off, wish we hadnt of sacked manager A or we should attempt to get Manager B. Its all total total bullshit, and it has to improve. Everytime we have a bad spell we cant all start getting annoyed and calling for the managers head etc. These are the facts.

1) We are the richest team in the world, we can buy anyone out there.
2) We have a very good manager who is a proven winner, as a player, and more importantly as a manager.
3) We have had so many managers in the past 25 years, it is cringeworthy.
4) This is not Roberto Mancini's team, it is still Mark Hughes' team
5) Is 2 months really enough time to judge a manager on?
5) We have not won a trophy for 35 years.

We, me, you as fans deserve the best, and given time, that is what we will get. Rome wasnt built in a day, it was planned, took time so it was completed correctly and to the highest standard.

This is exactly what Manchester City and Sheik Mansour have planned for us. It will happen. Certainly not today, probably not tomorrow, but after that, who knows - but it will happen i am sure. This is where we all need to change, lets not jump and pounce on the team when things are not going our way. They need us to be behind them in everyway possible, and with each moan and groan from the stands, they feel knocked down a little more.

We need to change and change now, starting at chelsea on saturday. So lets get behind the boys instead of giving them so much shit constantly. We are in a great position and we wont fuck it up, especially if we get onside with the team for once. Lets not do the old "typical city" attitude. Pull together boys

Well said. The other thing to remember is if we get rid of RM without giving him a fair crack of the whip, and a spending spree (like Hughes had), who in their right mind or worth any salt would come to manage us?
 
rickmcfc said:
blueinbolton77 said:
>>>> 4) This is not Roberto Mancini's team, it is still Mark Hughes' team

I'd agree if it wasn't for this and people saying "This is Mark Hughes team". I thought we had a good team put together that needed a better manager?

Are we now saying players of the likes of Ade, Phillips, Barry, Bridge, Toure, Robinho, Ireland, Given, De Jong are not good enough? And we need better players!

Now I'm not saying there isn't one or two of course. But if that's sincerely what we're putting forward as a fact, then maybe mansour should just cut his loses now and go buy manure instead of spending another 200 million replacing these players with even better ones, even if you can find enough replacements to come to city!!

Ade - Not the player i thought he was
SWP - Cant cross to save his life, much better right wongers out there
Barry - plays well on occasions, one of our better players
Bridge - great player, gives 100%
Toure - waste of space
Robinho - enough said, good ridance
Given - great shot stopper and thats it. Another fuck up last night
Ireland - Gone from one of the best midfielders in the country to someone who looks completely lost on a football pitch
De Jong - great player, solid and gives 100%

Just because we payed a lot of money for players doesnt mean they will all fit in. We need a big clearout in the summer in my opinion. Lets just hope roberto mancini is still there to sort it out.


good shout. rick
 
pride in battle said:
blumoonrises said:
You just don't get it do you..? Myself and others have pointed out plenty of times that the OTT reactions from "fans" on this forum do NOT represent the majority of match going SUPPORTERS.!
The players do NOT get constant shit from the terraces like you claim, most of us always back the team and there has certainly not been any hint of collective dissatisfaction at the games, if you are a ST holder you would already know this, so what are you talkin about and who exactly are you appealing to..?

Actually i am a season ticket holder and there is unrest,not mass unrest but people do slag the players.

My comments were actually aimed at the OP but as you say yourself, there is no mass unrest... there will always be the odd arsehole here and there who spits out abuse to players, but they cannot be used as a guideline to say there is any "unrest" at all..!
 
pride in battle said:
blumoonrises said:
You just don't get it do you..? Myself and others have pointed out plenty of times that the OTT reactions from "fans" on this forum do NOT represent the majority of match going SUPPORTERS.!
The players do NOT get constant shit from the terraces like you claim, most of us always back the team and there has certainly not been any hint of collective dissatisfaction at the games, if you are a ST holder you would already know this, so what are you talkin about and who exactly are you appealing to..?

Actually i am a season ticket holder and there is unrest,not mass unrest but people do slag the players.

wow wow wow, im all for getting behind the manager and the team as a whole, but slagging players who arent pulling their weight is a completely different thing to what we are talking about, frankly if adebayor is assing about near the touchline instead of busting a gut to get in the box il fucking tell him what i think, althou i agree with the op to some extent, i dont feel the depressing unrest at the ground like i do on here
 
maxflicity said:
rickmcfc said:
I have been thinking about this for a while now. I just cant belive all of the shite we give as a fan base. Everyone of us has done it at some point, shout abuse, be really pissed off, wish we hadnt of sacked manager A or we should attempt to get Manager B. Its all total total bullshit, and it has to improve. Everytime we have a bad spell we cant all start getting annoyed and calling for the managers head etc. These are the facts.

1) We are the richest team in the world, we can buy anyone out there.
2) We have a very good manager who is a proven winner, as a player, and more importantly as a manager.
3) We have had so many managers in the past 25 years, it is cringeworthy.
4) This is not Roberto Mancini's team, it is still Mark Hughes' team
5) Is 2 months really enough time to judge a manager on?
5) We have not won a trophy for 35 years.

We, me, you as fans deserve the best, and given time, that is what we will get. Rome wasnt built in a day, it was planned, took time so it was completed correctly and to the highest standard.

This is exactly what Manchester City and Sheik Mansour have planned for us. It will happen. Certainly not today, probably not tomorrow, but after that, who knows - but it will happen i am sure. This is where we all need to change, lets not jump and pounce on the team when things are not going our way. They need us to be behind them in everyway possible, and with each moan and groan from the stands, they feel knocked down a little more.

We need to change and change now, starting at chelsea on saturday. So lets get behind the boys instead of giving them so much shit constantly. We are in a great position and we wont fuck it up, especially if we get onside with the team for once. Lets not do the old "typical city" attitude. Pull together boys

Here here


I think a reality check is needed. Man City are not the richest team in the world, it may have the richest owner (although that title actually belongs to the guy at QPR) but as a club it is basically insolvent. Buy any player in the world? We've already seen that's nonsense. Abramovichs billions were going to make Chelsea into a world dominating force, they haven't even dominated their domestic league in the six years he's been there or become champions of Europe.
 
blueinbolton77 said:
rickmcfc said:
Ade - Not the player i thought he was
SWP - Cant cross to save his life, much better right wongers out there
Barry - plays well on occasions, one of our better players
Bridge - great player, gives 100%
Toure - waste of space
Robinho - enough said, good ridance
Given - great shot stopper and thats it. Another fuck up last night
Ireland - Gone from one of the best midfielders in the country to someone who looks completely lost on a football pitch
De Jong - great player, solid and gives 100%

Just because we payed a lot of money for players doesnt mean they will all fit in. We need a big clearout in the summer in my opinion. Lets just hope roberto mancini is still there to sort it out.

I sincerely respect your opinion, always do. But if we can't win ANYTHING from the team we have now, we've seriously got problems. I think if you were to give this same team to baconface, he be wetting his pants with joy and still winning. We can't keep changing, we've got to man up and allow the time we always say we give and never do. These are good players, and when Bobby has settled in over the next six months, I think those descriptions will change.

I felt sorry for Given really, a cock-up from a Goalie is always so so bad. I'd never play in nets, too much grief! I thought we could have killed the game in the first half, and this forum would have been mightly different today!!!



that game should have been wrapped up in the first 45, another fuck up. football managers know that if the team plays shit its him that takes the brunt of the blame thats the way it is fair or not. as for the players they were chosen to play for city they didnt just walk in and start kicking a ball ( something we should remember). this team has huge talent and you hire a manager to make talented individuals into a great team, if he cannot do this then find someone else who can. and please dont compare our bad patch to the dippers as our squad is far better than theirs. as for give him time, time is a luxury we dont have,
 
slicky202 said:
blueinbolton77 said:
I sincerely respect your opinion, always do. But if we can't win ANYTHING from the team we have now, we've seriously got problems. I think if you were to give this same team to baconface, he be wetting his pants with joy and still winning. We can't keep changing, we've got to man up and allow the time we always say we give and never do. These are good players, and when Bobby has settled in over the next six months, I think those descriptions will change.

I felt sorry for Given really, a cock-up from a Goalie is always so so bad. I'd never play in nets, too much grief! I thought we could have killed the game in the first half, and this forum would have been mightly different today!!!



that game should have been wrapped up in the first 45, another fuck up. football managers know that if the team plays shit its him that takes the brunt of the blame thats the way it is fair or not. as for the players they were chosen to play for city they didnt just walk in and start kicking a ball ( something we should remember). this team has huge talent and you hire a manager to make talented individuals into a great team, if he cannot do this then find someone else who can. and please dont compare our bad patch to the dippers as our squad is far better than theirs. as for give him time, time is a luxury we dont have,

As i said earlier - if we get rid of RM without giving him a fair crack of the whip, and a spending spree (like Hughes had), who in their right mind or worth any salt would come to manage us?
 

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