The vocal contributors on the politics Forum are certainly full of right wing views. In some cases, it's the same people who defend Brexit, trump, tommy robinson, conservatives, UKIP, EDL etc regardless of the facts.
Only way to explain it would be that people with liberal views are more likely to avoid conflict, hence not many vocal contributors. So the forum may not be right wing after all despite it feeling like it.
The vocal contributors on the politics Forum are certainly full of right wing views. In some cases, it's the same people who defend Brexit, trump, tommy robinson, conservatives, UKIP, EDL etc regardless of the facts.
Only way to explain it would be that people with liberal views are more likely to avoid conflict, hence not many vocal contributors. So the forum may not be right wing after all despite it feeling like it.
We’re always outnumbered in the debate because most people probably can’t be arsed arguing against the delusional.
This is why its impossible to discuss.
Because left wingers keep equating right wingers with the far right.
So basically any one left of centre is far right, which makes it a totally useless descriptor.
Yep, there’s only so many times you can bang your head against a brick wall.
Yep, there’s only so many times you can bang your head against a brick wall.
The right find the left as tediously delusional so the same holds true.
As you know, we live in a centre right country so you can expect any forum made majority of English people to be a centre right forum. The fact that we're centre left is the anomaly.
Would be nice to have a centre party, Labour aren't convincing me at all and the Tories gambled with the countries future to stay in power. Giant douche and turd sandwich springs to mind.
The election of Jeremy Corbyn is a direct result of the inexorable move to the right since the 80s, that is simply a fact, whether one is happy about it or not. Decades of there is no alternative, when clearly there is, has made pleas for moderate politics a nonsense, when moderate means the same right wing polemic, only with a toothy grin and tax credits.
The conservatives are in power but their demographic is not good, to remain in power they play a dangerous game, they talk soft one nation Toryism about those just getting by, while Tory policies punish those very same people, simultaneously they dog whistle the right to keep UKIP supporters onside and put in place measures to make it difficult for students and the poor to vote.
Tories flirt with mildly progressive ideas, they talk about such issues as the housing crisis and inequality but it's all talk and there are few takers, no one seriously believes the Tories give a shit about such things, so they move further to the right to hoover up the angry, disenfranchised right. What that means is the far right, the fruit loops we would all recognise, the blood and soil crowd, can happily nest in the Tory party, and the establishment that props them up allows far right language a platform, for example....
We live in a world where the BBC describes Steve Bannon as a "powerful and influential figure...promoting an anti-elite movement."
The election of Jeremy Corbyn is a direct result of the inexorable move to the right since the 80s, that is simply a fact, whether one is happy about it or not. Decades of there is no alternative, when clearly there is, has made pleas for moderate politics a nonsense, when moderate means the same right wing polemic, only with a toothy grin and tax credits.
The conservatives are in power but their demographic is not good, to remain in power they play a dangerous game, they talk soft one nation Toryism about those just getting by, while Tory policies punish those very same people, simultaneously they dog whistle the right to keep UKIP supporters onside and put in place measures to make it difficult for students and the poor to vote.
Tories flirt with mildly progressive ideas, they talk about such issues as the housing crisis and inequality but it's all talk and there are few takers, no one seriously believes the Tories give a shit about such things, so they move further to the right to hoover up the angry, disenfranchised right. What that means is the far right, the fruit loops we would all recognise, the blood and soil crowd, can happily nest in the Tory party, and the establishment that props them up allows far right language a platform, for example....
We live in a world where the BBC describes Steve Bannon as a "powerful and influential figure...promoting an anti-elite movement."
Election to what?
The Tories play the game better than anyone else, they could sell ice to the Eskimos. Takes decades of influence to do that though.
New Labour was more in line with my personal beliefs, I can see why the country needs a a variety of parties as we have years of different conflicts and injustice that make certain areas vote certain ways.
The internet has really shook politics up, people self educate themselves now on politics and can see through a lot of the bullshit spouted by MPs. Still baffles me how much influence newspapers have, not bought one in like 8 years.
The right are not in the majority on here, judging by the various polls we’ve had, but they certainly should louder and longer than the others which gives their views a disproportionate weight.
Come,come,now......Thats a bit extreme.I literally cannot believe I am reading this!
Us right wingers have been ganged up on such much we cant post!
Come,come,now......Thats a bit extreme.
Whooshlike me then
Can I be unbanned from the Trump and Corbyn thread then?
The Tories are an incredibly successful political party, until recently they steered away from anything resembling a clear right wing ideology, they are traditionally a class based party with eyes fixed clearly on the only thing that matters to them, power.
New Labour third way politics is dead, at least in the Labour party, it might re-emerge in the Tory party or any off shoot, depending how Brexit pans out.
If Corbyn wins the next election I suspect we'll have something akin to a Wilsonian Labour government, with all the opportunities and problems that will bring. It won't be a socialist government because Labour is not a socialist party, it will have socialist elements in it because it will be led by a socialist, but Venezuela it won't be.
There has to be real alternatives at the ballot box, if there isn't, as is the case in the USA, you get populists like Trump filling the disenfranchised angry void with lies.