The Rise of the Far Right

The perfect fumble said:
Just a quick one, what about the millions murdered under capitalist regimes? What about them?
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Capitalism is not a political doctrine, it is an economic one. There is no such thing as a "capitalist regime". There are autocracies on left and right. They are all evil. And funnily enough they include every single communist one ever. But since you like labels and insults, this below...

The perfect fumble said:
That's because where you sit is a pit of ignorance.

You might well think this a put down, but truth is you don't know enough about this stuff to hold an opinion, which, well, is anything more than just an opinion.
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...is the single stupidest, most arrogant post I have seen in quite a while.
 
Henkeman said:
Capitalism is not a political doctrine, it is an economic one. There is no such thing as a "capitalist regime". There are autocracies on left and right. They are all evil. And funnily enough they include every single communist one ever. But since you like labels and insults, this below...
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Political capitalism is an economic system in which business controls government more than government controls business.....

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Henkeman said:
...is the single stupidest, most arrogant post I have seen in quite a while.
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Stick around, there'll be more.
 
The perfect fumble said:
That's because where you sit is a pit of ignorance.

You might well think this a put down, but truth is you don't know enough about this stuff to hold an opinion, which, well, is anything more than just an opinion.
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You have absolutely no idea what he knows or doesn't.

Either actually contribute to the discussion or don't, but don't play these bullshit tactics.
 
The perfect fumble said:
There is nothing unacceptable about communism, it's a political doctrine I don't ascribe to, but there is nothing unacceptable about it, whatever unacceptable means.
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I can get behind that. That political ideologies have no inherent morality and it is how they are wielded by those in power which determines the acceptability of them.

But you do need to be consistent and ascribe the same ideals to national socialism and fascism.
 
Damocles said:
You have absolutely no idea what he knows or doesn't.

Either actually contribute to the discussion or don't, but don't play these bullshit tactics.
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You're a strange one.

I'm not here to lecture people on the basics of political philosophy, but you do need to know the basics, otherwise it's just one long stream of uniformed bullshit.

That's why your posts are so often all over the place, because you simply don't understand stuff and can't be arse to find out.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
You are a strange one.

I'm not here to lecture people on the basics of political philosophy, but you do need to know the basics, otherwise it's just one long stream of uniformed bullshit.

That's why your posts are so often all over the place, because you simply don't understand stuff and can't be arse to find out.
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I understand plenty of stuff and am pretty well read on political philosophy if I do say so myself.

Your problem is that you've confused objective fact with your own interpretation of morality. So everybody who disagrees with you is either immoral or stupid, there's no middle ground.

Again, either discuss the issues or fuck off. But don't sit there high and mighty thinking you can put something out there then just snipe at people who are asking for clarification or disagreeing.

We've spoken about this before. You're not contributing to a discussion. You're just being a dickhead.
 
Damocles said:
I understand plenty of stuff and am pretty well read on political philosophy if I do say so myself.

Your problem is that you've confused objective fact with your own interpretation of morality. So everybody who disagrees with you is either immoral or stupid, there's no middle ground.

Again, either discuss the issues or fuck off. But don't sit there high and mighty thinking you can put something out there then just snipe at people who are asking for clarification or disagreeing.

We've spoken about this before. You're not contributing to a discussion. You're just being a dickhead.
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You're absolutely right, I'm going to fuck off right now.
 
blueinsa said:
You are never anything when challenged yet all you do is defend the very things you profess either not to be or support.

I have no issue with you being a Corbyn loving commie;-)
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Gets a bit tiresome though when the height of political debate is Stalin was a commie, he killed people, Hitler was a Nazi, he killed people, they're both as bad as each other, extreme left, extreme right, they're the same coz Nazis are National Socialists!! Corbyn is a commie, McDonnell is a commie, he spoke with a hammer and sickle behind him, he's like Stalin, we'll be turned in to Venezuela, or the Soviet Union and we'll have gulags and pograms, and Corbyn once shared a platform with terrorist loving so and so and insulted a bunch of Zionists over their lack of irony so he's anti-Semitic and a racist and Momentum are evil and etc, etc, etc....
 
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The perfect fumble said:
Gets a bit tiresome though when the height of political debate is Stalin was a commie, he killed people, Hitler was a Nazi, he killed people, they're both as bad as each other, extreme left, extreme right, they're the same, coz Nazis are National Socialists!! Corbyn is a commie, McDonnell is a commie, he spoke with a hammer and sickle behind him, he's like Stalin, we'll be turned in to Venezuela, or the Soviet Union and we'll have gulags and pograms, and he once shared a platform with terrorist loving so and so and insulted a bunch of Zionists over their lack of irony so he's anti-Semitic and a racist and Momentum are evil and etc, etc, etc....
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Yes it's tiresome as hell but it's never going to stop being that unless people try to not make it that.

And it's one hell of an argument to suggest that Stalin and Hitler have got some evilness Premier League table
 
The perfect fumble said:
That's because where you sit is a pit of ignorance.

You might well think this a put down, but truth is you don't know enough about this stuff to hold an opinion, which, well, is anything more than just an opinion.
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Oh my Fumble lol
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Lol

Could you please explain why one doctrine is acceptable yet the other isn’t?

Because from where I sit they both lead to the same outcome in practice and the death role stats favor facism as the lesser of the two evils.
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You would favour a political doctrine that proscribes racial superiority and genocide of a race of people as official policy along with the elimination of people with physical and mental disabilities and also triggered a world war that killed some 40 million people in 5 years?

Bold take.
 
BobKowalski said:
You would favour a political doctrine that proscribes racial superiority and genocide of a race of people as official policy along with the elimination of people with physical and mental disabilities and also triggered a world war that killed some 40 million people in 5 years?

Bold take.
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I wouldn’t favour either. I just highlighted the death toll. Genocide is common to both.
 
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