The Rise of the Far Right

The perfect fumble said:
Please stop, just stop.

I was at Uni in Bradford from 75 to 80 when Mannigham was 25% Asian and now I live just outside, I can see Bradford from my window, Manningham is two thirds Asian now, come back in 20 years and that figure will have gone up. I used to work just outside Southall, the percentage is the same as Manningham and the same will happen and guess what Ilkley will still be 98% white, that's the issue! We're living apart.

Oh if you're going to talk about schools, how many of those kids attend a madrasa, virtually the Asian kids will..

That is the reality, stop your whataboutery, start from reality and work from there.
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I couldn’t give a fuck. It has no effect on my life. Why does it bother you? Please try to avoid using the phrases ethno-nationalism and indigenous population, thank you.
 
Vic said:
From your "we're living apart" comment I
assume you do want fewer Asians in Bradford and more in Ilkley. I think the Tommy supporters just want fewer Asians.
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Whilst that may be true if the left does not recognise and acknowledge the genuine concerns of people when the towns they grew up in no longer resemble the one they live in we make it so the voices on Yaxley-Lennon are the only ones they think they can turn to

I have relatives who are now one of the few white people in their street, they are in there 80’s and grew up in a time when there were no ethnic minorities at all

Easy for me to sit here in my little bubble and tell them to accept the change

The fact that whole districts are now 80-90% Muslim whilst the neighbouring districts are all white should bother us, does it affect me directly? No, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care

It’s not healthy for anyone but probably too late to do much about it

If I were to make a start it would be to ban all religious schools, and ship kids around to mix up the ethnicity in schools, too late for the adults start with the kids and hope for the future to be better than what we are getting now
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Why does it bother him? Fear.
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I'm not fearful for the UK, this country has a tradition of keep calm and carry on, we tend not to make a drama out of a crisis. Despite the right wing media agitating for violence, there was no summer civil war, there were no riots. Now the weather has turned, the flags are hanging limp in the rain, I've a feeling that perhaps the moment has passed. This movement may be bankrolled by the Yanky Dollar and honed into a well oiled machine, but it has nowhere to go, it has no political outlet worth shit and Robinson and Farage are not on speaking terms.

Musk can talk about dissolving Parliament, but it's all talk, there isn't the slightest possibility of that happening, and as Robinson and his pals have no levers that are attached to owt to get their early general election, you have to ask yourself if they have the momentum to keep this going for four years?

I think not.

Never forget, where there's tea there's hope.
 
The perfect fumble said:
I'm not fearful for the UK, this country has a tradition of keep calm and carry on, we tend not to make a drama out of a crisis. Despite the right wing media agitating for violence, there was no summer civil war, there were no riots. Now the weather has turned, the flags are hanging limp in the rain, I've a feeling that perhaps the moment has passed. This movement may be bankrolled by the Yanky Dollar and honed into a well oiled machine, but it has nowhere to go, it has no political outlet worth shit and Robinson and Farage are not on speaking terms.

Musk can talk about dissolving Parliament, but it's all talk, there isn't the slightest possibility of that happening, and as Robinson and his pals have no levers that are attached to owt to get their early general election, you have to ask yourself if they have the momentum to keep this going for four years?

I think not.

Never forget, where there's tea there's hope.
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It’s a very good point in that they've gone too early in the election cycle.
 
Monkfish said:
Whilst that may be true if the left does not recognise and acknowledge the genuine concerns of people when the towns they grew up in no longer resemble the one they live in we make it so the voices on Yaxley-Lennon are the only ones they think they can turn to
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Seems a very roundabout way of people pretending they dont really support the rhetoric and message of one group, it's just the nasty left that is forcing us to do it.
 
meltonblue said:
It’s a very good point in that they've gone too early in the election cycle.
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Robinson has joined Habib's Advance UK, but as far as I'm aware party financing rules mean there's a limit to what US bad faith actors can funnel to Habib, what I don't know is whether that applies to how much they can send Robinson's way.

Hopefully a split on the right will keep those fuckers in the wilderness for the foreseeable.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Robinson has joined Habib's Advance UK, but as far as I'm aware party financing rules mean there's a limit to what US bad faith actors can funnel to Habib, what I don't know is whether that applies to how much they can send Robinson's way.

Hopefully a split on the right will keep those fuckers in the wilderness for the foreseeable.
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Not surprised by that at all. They’ll now start pushing that Reform is just a renamed Conservative Party.

Even with Musk, I’m not sure with what Habib and Robinson are pushing, they’re ever going to get the numbers willing to go across that far.

It’s a lifeline for Labour that they don’t really deserve, I hope they realise they’ve still got to sort their shit out and quickly and I say that as someone that didn’t vote for them.
 
meltonblue said:
Not surprised by that at all. They’ll now start pushing that Reform is just a renamed Conservative Party.

Even with Musk, I’m not sure with what Habib and Robinson are pushing, they’re ever going to get the numbers willing to go across that far.

It’s a lifeline for Labour that they don’t really deserve, I hope they realise they’ve still got to sort their shit out and quickly and I say that as someone that didn’t vote for them.
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If people are better off when the next general election rolls around they stand a chance, if not, then god knows what'll happen.
 
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