The Rise of the Far Right

The perfect fumble said:
I'm a big fan of the melting pot.

You need to do a bit of research on your terms...

The "melting pot" is a metaphor for assimilation, where distinct cultures blend into a single, uniform national culture, often losing their unique traditions. In contrast, "multiculturalism" is a model where multiple cultures coexist within a society while maintaining their distinct identities and characteristics, similar to a "salad bowl" where ingredients remain separate but contribute to the whole. The melting pot is criticized for promoting cultural dilution and the loss of minority traditions, while multiculturalism is seen by its proponents as a more inclusive approach that values diversity.
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My AI definition says
"The concept of a melting pot describes a place where different people and cultures come together, often leading to a harmonious blending of traditions and ideas. The term gained prominence in the early 20th century, particularly after Israel Zangwill's 1908 play titled "The Melting Pot," which depicted America as a place where immigrants could assimilate into a common culture while contributing their unique backgrounds."

I'm afraid I think your idea of a "common culture" is something that's never existed in Britain. Common purpose maybe, sometimes, but never common culture. Even when Christianity was a common faith, we were burning people who failed to be quite common enough. I wasn't quite sure whether you were saying the "Anglo-Saxon majority" was a good thing - but it's a phrase that suggests a minority who didn't share the common culture of the German immigrants who swamped the Britons.
 
Vic said:
My AI definition says
"The concept of a melting pot describes a place where different people and cultures come together, often leading to a harmonious blending of traditions and ideas. The term gained prominence in the early 20th century, particularly after Israel Zangwill's 1908 play titled "The Melting Pot," which depicted America as a place where immigrants could assimilate into a common culture while contributing their unique backgrounds."

I'm afraid I think your idea of a "common culture" is something that's never existed in Britain. Common purpose maybe, sometimes, but never common culture. Even when Christianity was a common faith, we were burning people who failed to be quite common enough. I wasn't quite sure whether you were saying the "Anglo-Saxon majority" was a good thing - but it's a phrase that suggests a minority who didn't share the common culture of the German immigrants who swamped the Britons.
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Holy mother of god!

I'm an old timer, in my day the fact you didn't know the difference between melting pot and multiculturalism would've had you dead in the water, but in the age of internet babble it means fuck all.

Let's call it a day before I say something my late dear mother would've disproved of in her sons.

You've won, I've lost, let me say with no prejudice...

I've wasted too much time on you, just stop with your inane nonsense.
 
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Vic said:
My AI definition says
"The concept of a melting pot describes a place where different people and cultures come together, often leading to a harmonious blending of traditions and ideas. The term gained prominence in the early 20th century, particularly after Israel Zangwill's 1908 play titled "The Melting Pot," which depicted America as a place where immigrants could assimilate into a common culture while contributing their unique backgrounds."

I'm afraid I think your idea of a "common culture" is something that's never existed in Britain. Common purpose maybe, sometimes, but never common culture. Even when Christianity was a common faith, we were burning people who failed to be quite common enough. I wasn't quite sure whether you were saying the "Anglo-Saxon majority" was a good thing - but it's a phrase that suggests a minority who didn't share the common culture of the German immigrants who swamped the Britons.
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My AI definition?

Jeez, is life now so divorced from reality, critical thinking is a historical concept?

AI, for fucks sake.
 
NPBlue said:
My AI definition?

Jeez, is life now so divorced from reality, critical thinking is a historical concept?

AI, for fucks sake.
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It was a response to fumble's definition which I took to be AI.

The second paragraph was all my own work.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
Holy mother of god!

I'm an old timer, in my day the fact you didn't know the difference between melting pot and multiculturalism would've had you dead in the water, but in the age of internet babble it means fuck all.

Let's call it a day before I say something my late dear mother would've disproved of in her sons.

You've won, I've lost, let me say with no prejudice...

I've wasted too much time on you, just stop with your inane nonsense.
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Well, I'm sorry I disappoint you, but I think that really demonstrates the problem.

I've taken a basic definition of multiculturalism I like, e.g. Britannica's:

"multiculturalism, the view that cultures, races, and ethnicities, particularly those of minority groups, deserve special acknowledgment of their differences within a dominant political culture"

If others interpret that differently and layer other stuff on it, it may well have passed me by. But I'd rather have my loose understanding of it than the knots you get into over narrow definitions.

I do notice you prefer abuse to actually responding to arguments, and feel free not to respond at all, but I'll continue to probe the nonsense of a common British culture since the 8th century.
 
It's actually the rise in populism - all brought about by traditional political parties being elected on specific promises that just aren't implemented because it doesn't coincide with the establishment view.
If migrant boats had been stopped by the Tories - Reform would be nowhere.
They wern't so the Torries are political toast.
The sane will happen to Liebour for it's core support. Pensioners especially are totally disillusioned.
 
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richardtheref said:
The Reform rally in Crook tomorrow has been cancelled because the organisers dog has had to be put down and she doesn't feel up to it.
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Wonder if these Far right shitstains like Charlie Veitch and the other tossers will be causing havoc in the city centre tomorrow. Sole purpose instigating trouble with folk who have Brown faces.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
LBC is a tough listen today, many women calling in with a lot of fear and crying with their experiences lately. we're in a dark place.
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I would be somewhat sceptical of some of the callers. Reform are now very well organised in having people on the ground doing posts/interviews on topics such as this helping promote their narrative
 
The Crook rally was cancelled after all. Very unclear from the posts. It wasn't cancelled because only 30 people said they would attend but because of the organiser having her dog put down. Really
It's on next week.
If this is a sign of how their activists work we are all safe.
 
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