The Scottish Politics thread

[metalblue]

SNP have just lost Supreme Court case to hold a referendum

 

[Thornliebank]

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
Now please stop greeting you Nationalist whingebags.

 

[blueparrot]

So not a United Kingdom of equal partners the. At least it's official now.

 

[Metal Biker]

So not a United Kingdom of equal partners the. At least it's official now.

You can still hold a referendum, you just need the equal consent of all the equal partners of all the members of the United Kingdom, not just be able to decide to hold one whenever you wish despite the protestations of the other equal members of the union.

Which is kind of the point of the union, right? All members have an equal say?

 

[blueparrot]

You can still hold a referendum, you just need the equal consent of all the equal partners of all the members of the United Kingdom, not just be able to decide to hold one whenever you wish despite the protestations of the other equal members of the union.

Which is kind of the point of the union, right? All members have an equal say?

Did we need permission from the EU to hold a referendum and leave ?

 

[Metal Biker]

Did we need permission from the EU to hold a referendum and leave ?

The EU isn't the same sort of union as the UK is. The UK is a country, the EU is not a country.

The referendum was not binding. We could have voted to stay and our Parliament could still have gone through the process to leave. We could have voted to leave and still stayed.

Parliament is sovereign. Parliament is made up of all 4 members of the UK.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Unilateral declaration of Independence next........



if Rhodesia could do it so can Scotland.

 

[blueparrot]

The EU isn't the same sort of union as the UK is. The UK is a country, the EU is not a country.

Right, so essentially if any part of the UK wants to leave, it need the permission of a Westminster, Engish dominated government it's never voted for. Yet we are 4 equal partners. I don't care what you or anyone think about independence, thats just wrong.

 

[mexico1970]

Has anyone checked if fandabydozie is OK?

 

[Gabriel]

Not unexpected but doesn’t actually resolve the underlying problem. The unanswerable question is what democratic route is available to those who want independence. If Westminster continually forbids it, then there is no democracy, and that is a dangerous situation to create.