The Scottish Politics thread

[mexico1970]

His appointments are not impressive. You would have thought he would have the sense to surround himself with the best and cleverest people and then apply real leadership to them. Instead this is just a bunch of his pals who will try and out woke each other. It makes me sad as now Scotland is back to who the fuck do you vote for if you want competence let alone independence.

I wish them/they/him/she well going forward ;)

 

[Saddleworth2]

There’s soon to be a by-election in Rutherglen and Hamilton West, I would imagine, which is a key Labour target. Cometh the hour, cometh the @Saddleworth2

time to brush up my manifesto. I will be running as an independent.

 

[Bluemanc100]

His appointments are not impressive. You would have thought he would have the sense to surround himself with the best and cleverest people and then apply real leadership to them. Instead this is just a bunch of his pals who will try and out woke each other. It makes me sad as now Scotland is back to who the fuck do you vote for if you want competence let alone independence.

I've not seen his appointments but I'm confident that quite a few of them will go against his principles based on the recent speech about race... It's surely all about having the skills and is ideally the best person to do the job that person is selected for and absolutely nothing else....

 

[Saddleworth2]

• Equal rights for fish
• criminalisation of conservatism
• every adult in Scotland to be awarded a tunnock tea cake and a can of Barrs Irn Bru

think I’m on to a winner.

 

[Magicpole]

The reality is it’s not about a leader. I too was disappointed at who ran. A bible bashing nutcase who can’t support gay marriage because of her belief in the Idiots Compendium of Insanity. If she is so guided by that book then she should be out killing people who work the Sabbath, people with tattoos, people who wear mixed fibre jumpers and on and on. So, I don’t want a leader who is so selective about where she draws her line. They also believe in Adam and Eve and a 6,000 year old universe, get yourself to fuck running a country when you deluded yourself that myth is fact.,

Humza is an ok guy and I know him, I wouldn’t have picked him as I don’t think he is a leader who can inspire. The other one is a no mark.

What we need to realise is it’s about Indy not an individual. It will be harder as Sturgeon was class. Sue ragdolled that cock DRoss on a daily basis and I am not convinced Humza has that.

I always had reservations about us doing it, we have a massive monarchy loving section who would trade a better life for a monarch, which is their right, regardless of how idiotic I feel that to be.

The one ace in the hole is our swirling around the toilet of Brexit and continued and eternal English electing of the Tories that might make people realise it’s time to say catch ye. I certainly hope so l, but won’t be holding my breath.

 

[Coatigan]

Shocking, everytime the SNP appoint aleader it's somebody that supports independence. It's a fix I reckon.

It's the same old from the SNP - Ross
Douglas Ross says says: "It's the same old from the SNP, another nationalist leader, when Scotland needs a national leader."

The Scottish Tory leader says that within minutes of becoming SNP leader he pushed for the powers to hold indyref2.

He says he demanded another independence vote when he spoke to the PM.

On Wednesday he says Yousaf appointed a minister for independence.

Don't know about you, but I really expected him to say he will now focus all his efforts on preserving the union, and working closely with the Tories to ensure austerity is properly implemented.

 

[blueparrot]

Don't know about you, but I really expected him to say he will now focus all his efforts on preserving the union, and working closely with the Tories to esnsure austerity is properly implemented.

I was hoping so, ah well maybe the next leader will be the unionist we were expecting.

 

[Pedestrian]

The reality is it’s not about a leader. I too was disappointed at who ran. A bible bashing nutcase who can’t support gay marriage because of her belief in the Idiots Compendium of Insanity. If she is so guided by that book then she should be out killing people who work the Sabbath, people with tattoos, people who wear mixed fibre jumpers and on and on. So, I don’t want a leader who is so selective about where she draws her line. They also believe in Adam and Eve and a 6,000 year old universe, get yourself to fuck running a country when you deluded yourself that myth is fact.,

Humza is an ok guy and I know him, I wouldn’t have picked him as I don’t think he is a leader who can inspire. The other one is a no mark.

What we need to realise is it’s about Indy not an individual. It will be harder as Sturgeon was class. Sue ragdolled that cock DRoss on a daily basis and I am not convinced Humza has that.

I always had reservations about us doing it, we have a massive monarchy loving section who would trade a better life for a monarch, which is their right, regardless of how idiotic I feel that to be.

The one ace in the hole is our swirling around the toilet of Brexit and continued and eternal English electing of the Tories that might make people realise it’s time to say catch ye. I certainly hope so l, but won’t be holding my breath.

‘Idiots compendium of insanity’ is Irvine Welsh esc…I salute you for this.

 

[Saddleworth2]

A bible bashing nutcase who can’t support gay marriage because of her belief in the Idiots Compendium of Insanity. If she is so guided by that book then she should be out killing people who work the Sabbath, people with tattoos, people who wear mixed fibre jumpers and on and on.

That’s almost as offensive as some of her views, well done. Putting her religious beliefs aside she is the only one that displayed a level of candour and competence. What she said about Humza, it would appear a significant % of SNP voters agree with.

Humza is an ok guy and I know him, I wouldn’t have picked him as I don’t think he is a leader who can inspire. The other one is a no mark.

He comes over as pretty devoid of talent. If you know him maybe you know better but his ministerial career is littered with failure.

What we need to realise is it’s about Indy not an individual.

Not about the party either. It does need someone though to martial the case for independence and present it in a manner that the majority of Scot’s believe it’s the right way forward. Arguably none of the three that stood are capable of doing that but Yousaf is certainly incapable of that feat. My best guess is he won’t last a year.
Sturgeon must have a bloody good reason for standing down as it has put the independence case back years.

 

[Gabriel]

That’s almost as offensive as some of her views, well done. Putting her religious beliefs aside she is the only one that displayed a level of candour and competence. What she said about Humza, it would appear a significant % of SNP voters agree with.

He comes over as pretty devoid of talent. If you know him maybe you know better but his ministerial career is littered with failure.

Not about the party either. It does need someone though to martial the case for independence and present it in a manner that the majority of Scot’s believe it’s the right way forward. Arguably none of the three that stood are capable of doing that but Yousaf is certainly incapable of that feat. My best guess is he won’t last a year.
Sturgeon must have a bloody good reason for standing down as it has put the independence case back years.

There is arguably a greater depth of talent at Westminster than there appears to be at Holyrood, and that may not be to the SNP’s immediate benefit.

 

[nellyonthewing]

I think we should each get £5 million in reperation from the Scots for what Rangers fans did to Manchester.

 

[Magicpole]

That’s almost as offensive as some of her views, well done. Putting her religious beliefs aside she is the only one that displayed a level of candour and competence. What she said about Humza, it would appear a significant % of SNP voters agree with.

He comes over as pretty devoid of talent. If you know him maybe you know better but his ministerial career is littered with failure.

Not about the party either. It does need someone though to martial the case for independence and present it in a manner that the majority of Scot’s believe it’s the right way forward. Arguably none of the three that stood are capable of doing that but Yousaf is certainly incapable of that feat. My best guess is he won’t last a year.
Sturgeon must have a bloody good reason for standing down as it has put the independence case back years.

I think Forbes would have probably been the best candidate, but you cannot have a fundamental religious person in charge of anything. Never mind a country. Personal view nobody has to agree, but I think they suffer from psychological issues of delusion and hearing voices. Science deniers get on my tits.

Humza isn’t a leader and isn’t an orator or an intellectual. He will be hounded as was a sturgeon but she had the jazz and how to deal with it. His cabinet is unknown. I can’t comment upon them as I don’t know enough.

It isn’t a Party issue, it’s more than that, but the SNP was the flagship and now we have Captain Pugwash.

Bottom line, we are fucked.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I think Forbes would have probably been the best candidate, but you cannot have a fundamental religious person in charge of anything. Never mind a country. Personal view nobody has to agree, but I think they suffer from psychological issues of delusion and hearing voices. Science deniers get on my tits.

Humza isn’t a leader and isn’t an orator or an intellectual. He will be hounded as was a sturgeon but she had the jazz and how to deal with it. His cabinet is unknown. I can’t comment upon them as I don’t know enough.

It isn’t a Party issue, it’s more than that, but the SNP was the flagship and now we have Captain Pugwash.

Bottom line, we are fucked.

On that we agree 100%.

 

[Coatigan]

I think Forbes would have probably been the best candidate, but you cannot have a fundamental religious person in charge of anything. Never mind a country. Personal view nobody has to agree, but I think they suffer from psychological issues of delusion and hearing voices. Science deniers get on my tits.

Humza isn’t a leader and isn’t an orator or an intellectual. He will be hounded as was a sturgeon but she had the jazz and how to deal with it. His cabinet is unknown. I can’t comment upon them as I don’t know enough.

It isn’t a Party issue, it’s more than that, but the SNP was the flagship and now we have Captain Pugwash.

Bottom line, we are fucked.

You know he is religious as well, right? He just isn't as naive as she was.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does better than we expect, by being almost too incapable of having the hounding get to him.

 

[Magicpole]

You know he is religious as well, right? He just isn't as naive as she was.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does better than we expect, by being almost too incapable of having the hounding get to him.

You’re right. He is religious too, far too for my liking. He would vote for stuff she wouldn’t, but it still fucks me off people can lead countries who think Adam and Eve were real. It’s no worse than both of them proclaiming an absolute belief in Santa and his command to keep buying toys.

All three of them gave me the feeling that I being forced to eat a shit sandwich, but I get to choose the type of bread.

 

[blueinsa]

Shocking, everytime the SNP appoint aleader it's somebody that supports independence. It's a fix I reckon.

It's the same old from the SNP - Ross
Douglas Ross says says: "It's the same old from the SNP, another nationalist leader, when Scotland needs a national leader."

The Scottish Tory leader says that within minutes of becoming SNP leader he pushed for the powers to hold indyref2.

He says he demanded another independence vote when he spoke to the PM.

On Wednesday he says Yousaf appointed a minister for independence.

He will push independence back further than even his biggest political enemies could dream of.

He is fucking useless and has so little public trust and support, his first fuck up will do for him.

 

[Thornliebank]

He will push independence back further than even his biggest political enemies could dream of.

He is fucking useless and has so little public trust and support, his first fuck up will do for him.

He will destroy the SNP vote, but until that glorious day , Scotland is the RMS Titanic without even a single life boat.

 

[Thornliebank]

You know he is religious as well, right? He just isn't as naive as she was.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does better than we expect, by being almost too incapable of having the hounding get to him.

People will be too scared to criticise the race baiter in the same way they managed to get rid of the ' Protestant '.

 

[Coatigan]

People will be too scared to criticise the race baiter in the same way they managed to get rid of the ' Protestant '.

Potentially, to some extent.

What is absolutely certain though is, it will bring the nutters out to make a meal of it at the first opportunity. Your own comment being a good example.

 

[Coatigan]

He will push independence back further than even his biggest political enemies could dream of.

He is fucking useless and has so little public trust and support, his first fuck up will do for him.

You could well be totally right about him. But I would doubt that would push back independence as a 'movement'. I just don't think that is how it works, in the same way it wouldn't have been pushed forward with a more capable or charismatic leader.

If he were in charge of a Brexit party, would it have put you off the desire for Brexit? Farage, Gove, Mogg etc didn't put people off that, nor Salmond in first indyref, so why might someone as insignificant as him have that effect. Unless I have misunderstood your point.

Independence is imo probably stuck at a stalemate point, with no meaningful swings in either direction for the forseeable future, while remaining the prime topic most of that time.