The Squad planning thread

Donnarumma is the only exception. Can’t count Semenyo or Guehi yet. Ait-Nouri is hopeless and doesn’t even resemble a footballer. Cherki, to jury is out
This is not a sensible post.
Ait-Nouri is a quality footballer who has barely played for us.
Cherki is a recognised genius who leads the stats across all midfielders despite adapting to a new team and league.

It is always true that this type of post is commonplace following a bad loss.
Sometimes, taking a step back and realising our position in the league and all competitions is a good place to be, but we are, currently, crippled with injury in key positions and to key personnel.

All new players need time to adapt but it is very clear that Viana has delivered a lot of quality to the team with great value in the market.
 
You’ve answered your own point about changing tactics with examples of him changing the way we play. He’s not going to change his overall philosophy though

Pep would probably come back at your point and say his tactics have won us everything over nearly ten years and even this season we’re second, in a league cup semi final and competing in all competitions
But this is what I'm getting at - he's shown us he can change and adapt, so why the bleeding hell has he thrown it all in the bin recently and reverted to a type of football that is seeing us get slaughtered? Pep can come back at me all he likes, but he won that trophy haul with a different set of players with a different set of skills. This current crop cannot play like D Silva, De Bruyne and Gundogan et al. We are no longer good enough to camp out in the other team's half, trying to pick the lock with diminutive, technical players. It's not working, you know full well it's not working and we need to be pragmatic.

The reason we are a second (a distant second and averaging less than two points-per-game, I must add), is because of our change in style between September and December. I actually think the return of Rodri has convinced Pep that we can revert back to the high defensive line and hogging possession.
 
But this is what I'm getting at - he's shown us he can change and adapt, so why the bleeding hell has he thrown it all in the bin recently and reverted to a type of football that is seeing us get slaughtered? Pep can come back at me all he likes, but he won that trophy haul with a different set of players with a different set of skills. This current crop cannot play like D Silva, De Bruyne and Gundogan et al. We are no longer good enough to camp out in the other team's half, trying to pick the lock with diminutive, technical players. It's not working, you know full well it's not working and we need to be pragmatic.

The reason we are a second (a distant second and averaging less than two points-per-game, I must add), is because of our change in style between September and December. I actually think the return of Rodri has convinced Pep that we can revert back to the high defensive line and hogging possession.
Injuries to key personnel.
Add just Gonzalez and Nunes to last night and it's a different game.
Add Dias and Gvardiol and it really is.

I don't argue against the need for pragmatism with such a backdrop.
 
Injuries to key personnel.
Of course, but we can't blame injuries for the manner of the last two defeats. United and Bodo could both have scored six against us. Let that sink in.

In light of our injury situation, it's better to be less open defensively. A weakened defence was left exposed by a midfield containing Rodri, Reijnders, Foden and Cherki last night. We had enough good players out on the pitch to not get slapped by Bodo.
 
Of course, but we can't blame injuries for the manner of the last two defeats. United and Bodo could both have scored six against us. Let that sink in.

In light of our injury situation, it's better to be less open defensively. A weakened defence was left exposed by a midfield containing Rodri, Reijnders, Foden and Cherki last night. We had enough good players out on the pitch to not get slapped by Bodo.
I think I said elsewhere that greater pragmatism in the face of such an injury list would be welcome.
 
Need to rebuild the midfield AGAIN
Just need to find an identity with a manager who is going to at least be here for 3 seasons after this one so a squad can be built in that identity. If we don’t do this it could be a few years before we get to the levels we had for the majority of Pep’s time here.

The levels have dropped for a while now and we have brought in new players and yet the levels have not got back to the standards we had before.
 
Just need to find an identity with a manager who is going to at least be here for 3 seasons after this one so a squad can be built in that identity. If we don’t do this it could be a few years before we get to the levels we had for the majority of Pep’s time here.

The levels have dropped for a while now and we have brought in new players and yet the levels have not got back to the standards we had before.

I dont think we can ever get to them levels again mate, its was just moment in time to do that many records in 5 years? Possibly no one ever gets to that level in fairness!
 
No this Lad - Ruan Pablo

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Basically plays for City football Group Club, Esporte Bahia. The report is about his time on exchange to Manchester City a year ago. Since then he has got into the Brazil National team and represented them at U17 World Cup where they reached the semis. City have continued to monitor him alongside another Bahia player, Dell, who also represented Brazil U17 World Cup team.
I was speaking to someone who works at City last night and this kid was mentioned by him. Normally he is very guarded when talking about young players but he said this kid looks like we could have a gem on our hands and he could be coming over this summer
 
I dont think we can ever get to them levels again mate, its was just moment in time to do that many records in 5 years? Possibly no one ever gets to that level in fairness!
Can’t argue with that, you make a good point. I do though concede that Arsenal will be the dominant team for next couple of years at least. Once they get a taste of winning PL the next trophy win will be easier. They don’t need to revolutionise their squad like we do.
 
I was speaking to someone who works at City last night and this kid was mentioned by him. Normally he is very guarded when talking about young players but he said this kid looks like we could have a gem on our hands and he could be coming over this summer
When our club find a gem, being guarded about making that name public is the best option. The fact that he has mentioned the name of this player shows he is feeling fairly confident that the player will end up at City in the future.
 
Agree to a point but the smiling Dutch ghost signing needs addressing, can’t think of a single top team who would want him. What does he even do?
Scores goals. Who else in the team has as many as him in the last several weeks. Without him dropped points against Forest and a loss against Chelsea even more likely
 
This is not a sensible post.
Ait-Nouri is a quality footballer who has barely played for us.
Cherki is a recognised genius who leads the stats across all midfielders despite adapting to a new team and league.
I think everyone could have picked the 11 players that would start against Bodo but not in the positions they started.
It's a bit like starting a game of chess with all the pieces jumbled up.
Ait Nouri is not a right back, Cherki is not a winger, etc.
 
Just need to find an identity with a manager who is going to at least be here for 3 seasons after this one so a squad can be built in that identity. If we don’t do this it could be a few years before we get to the levels we had for the majority of Pep’s time here.

The levels have dropped for a while now and we have brought in new players and yet the levels have not got back to the standards we had before.
Pep was the level. He took us to levels we've never seen before. I'd made my peace in Istanbul that we'd probably never see a City side as good as that in my lifetime. Blessed to be part of it to be honest.
 
This is not a sensible post.
Ait-Nouri is a quality footballer who has barely played for us.
Cherki is a recognised genius who leads the stats across all midfielders despite adapting to a new team and league.

It is always true that this type of post is commonplace following a bad loss.
Sometimes, taking a step back and realising our position in the league and all competitions is a good place to be, but we are, currently, crippled with injury in key positions and to key personnel.

All new players need time to adapt but it is very clear that Viana has delivered a lot of quality to the team with great value in the market.
Problem we have is when we win 10 games in a row. The same posters will be on here blowing our trumpet. It's barmy.
 
Some pretty over-the-top posts on here again, as usual.

With the two quality new signings, once we have most players fit we actually have a very strong, well-balanced squad. On paper, our first XI could easily look like:

Donnarumma; Nunes, Guéhi, Dias, Gvardiol; Rodri, Bernardo; Cherki, Foden; Haaland, Semenyo.

And then you’ve got serious depth as well: Trafford, Lewis, Aït-Nouri, Aké, Stones, Nico, Kovačić, O’Reilly, Doku, Savinho, Marmoush — plus quality youngsters like Mukasa, Alleyne, etc. coming through.

You don’t panic-buy just because injuries pile up, form dips, and Pep has a few “Pep moments” (which is clearly happening right now). You work through it. You graft. You don’t just throw the chequebook at everything because we’re not performing like a peak, unstoppable super-team for a few weeks.

What we’ve witnessed over the last few years will almost certainly never happen again — to anyone — in most of our lifetimes. It was a glorious, historic one-off. The challenge now is being a consistently elite football club with proper standards and identity, not drifting towards the model of those down the road. Ironically, some of the posts demanding drastic change are pushing us in exactly that direction without realising it.

Yes, there are obvious gaps: an experienced, high-quality right-back to help Nunes continue his development (and remember what people were saying about him not that long ago), plus replacements for squad players who’ll be moving on.

It’s easy to lose perspective after a bad week. But look at our squad at full strength — that’s the real indicator of where we are, not a poor month or a rough run of results.
 
A stilleto, in the hands of a master is deadly, feint and strike. fuckin' useless againt a fortress. The almost universal adoption of pressing has seen the game change as much as Pep's version of total football, "we have the ball,they can't score" achieved success on a scale not seen before. And inevitably, counter-measures have evolved, teams still pressing after 90 minues, tracking back the norm etc We have surprised no-one with our strategies, we stick to the script. As a spectacle, it'a turn-off. When circumstances change, recognising the change and adapting to it, is the biggest challenge for PEP....
 
Some pretty over-the-top posts on here again, as usual.

With the two quality new signings, once we have most players fit we actually have a very strong, well-balanced squad. On paper, our first XI could easily look like:

Donnarumma; Nunes, Guéhi, Dias, Gvardiol; Rodri, Bernardo; Cherki, Foden; Haaland, Semenyo.

And then you’ve got serious depth as well: Trafford, Lewis, Aït-Nouri, Aké, Stones, Nico, Kovačić, O’Reilly, Doku, Savinho, Marmoush — plus quality youngsters like Mukasa, Alleyne, etc. coming through.

You don’t panic-buy just because injuries pile up, form dips, and Pep has a few “Pep moments” (which is clearly happening right now). You work through it. You graft. You don’t just throw the chequebook at everything because we’re not performing like a peak, unstoppable super-team for a few weeks.

What we’ve witnessed over the last few years will almost certainly never happen again — to anyone — in most of our lifetimes. It was a glorious, historic one-off. The challenge now is being a consistently elite football club with proper standards and identity, not drifting towards the model of those down the road. Ironically, some of the posts demanding drastic change are pushing us in exactly that direction without realising it.

Yes, there are obvious gaps: an experienced, high-quality right-back to help Nunes continue his development (and remember what people were saying about him not that long ago), plus replacements for squad players who’ll be moving on.

It’s easy to lose perspective after a bad week. But look at our squad at full strength — that’s the real indicator of where we are, not a poor month or a rough run of results.
I'll go a stage further. Let's look at the results with our squad at full strength, which is possibly what you meant. Until then it's up to all those involved to do their bit and in a few cases a fair bit better.
 

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