The Squad planning thread

I feel like im always left wanting more. Something just not quite there :(. Like his hustle off the ball. But on it, it is so, Meh :(

He is still super young though.
He does keep it very simple, I dont mind that given the games Ive seen him in though. CL games, big stage, not fazed at all.

There are some games it seems Lille use him as an AM, might have to watch a couple of those as well at some point.

(and if you sign him early enough you can get him in the HG catagory later)
 
I wonder if Viana has anything in his contact about not going for Sporting players? Fresneda, Diomande and Trincao all runoured targets
 
order of preference:
1. Vanderson, Monaco
2. Livramento, Newcastle
3. Ivan Fresneda, Sporting ( The most like Kyle Walker) and the youngest.
4. Frimpong: if we are switching to 3 at the back.

Guys we probably cant get who are good also.

Hakimi - best overall. But at a top club.
Reece James - injury prone and at a ig club
Malo Gusto - Same as above
Anau Martinez - I think we are not allowed to trade with Girona. Will be a great scheme fit.


Those are the obvious ones. I even bringing back Yan Couto more than going for Cambiaso.

It strikes me as a collosal waste of money.
Yeh fair enough.

Not seen much of vanderson tbf
Livramento was on my mind but weren’t there whispers Newcastle would ask for 75+
Fresneda was a name goimg around since Valladolid but he hasn’t really kicked off has he?
Frimpong is obviously the other big option but like Cambiaso there will be question marks over his defending


We deffo need to invest heavy into a rb that’s for sure
 
I wonder if Viana has anything in his contact about not going for Sporting players? Fresneda, Diomande and Trincao all runoured targets
not seen any to fresneda. Diomande is Arsenal bound i think

Ignacio would be more likely i reckon if we buy a defender from Sporting
 
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They do. In fact, its the most common way older players drop off.

Sudden and drastic. Their bodies break down and it stops matching their mind and past capacity.
Fernandinho / Otamendi / Kompany…Didn’t see their performance levels drop off a cliff from the domestic treble. In fact from a young team they were integral.
 
If we keep this hem we drop further away and in the end the legacies of these players will be tarnished but at least we can live if our past trophy’s and become the new Man Utd .
I think you missed my point. This squad needs an over haul. But you don’t get rid of everyone and start again. I think our board are a bit more clued up than Chelsea’s ‘if you have a pulse sign it’ strategy. This should be a transitional and phased approach.
 
If we keep this hem we drop further away and in the end the legacies of these players will be tarnished but at least we can live if our past trophy’s and become the new Man Utd .
But you don’t get rid of multi prem/champs league/FA cup/ league cup winners. The experience and know how is priceless.
 
Fernandinho / Otamendi / Kompany…Didn’t see their performance levels drop off a cliff from the domestic treble. In fact from a young team they were integral.
2 points

1. Yes, Dihno dropped off a cliff in his final season. He was a shell of his former self

2. The claim is not that ALL older players drop off, but rather, that its the most common for older players to go from integral in one season, to unable to meet the grade the next season. Its quite normal.
 
Good. We will play Europe league next season then. I mean the squad has to do a united and keep all this players just for the sake of it. We literally did it this season already. Why would the team keep 5-6 players who just can’t offer anything anymore even from the bench? The problem here is also that Pep will continue to use them just because he is close to them.
Was Fernandinho not essential to Rodri when he first joined. Or Kompany as important to Stones. Did David silva not help Bernardo, Gundo or Kev (who he claims is the best player he’s ever played with) ? So can stones, Ake or Akanji (won the fucking lot) not offer anything to Khusanov or Reis? can Bernardo not help develop Savio or Bobb. Grealish not help Marmoush?
 
What youre saying is literally what we did this past summer, kept the legends and old guard and hows that working out? This whole squad needs a massive refresh
Of course. Never said it didn’t. Can’t get rid of the most experienced serial winning players. You think Sergio, Fernandinho, Kompany, David Silva etc offered nothing when their game times were reduced?
 
2 points

1. Yes, Dihno dropped off a cliff in his final season. He was a shell of his former self

2. The claim is not that ALL older players drop off, but rather, that it’s the most common for older players to go from integral in one season, to unable to meet the grade the next season.
1) he wasn’t integral in his final season tho was he. He got ripped by Vinicius at the Etihad. He became a bit part / fill in player. Which doesn’t decry the influence he had in the locker room. Hence why he’s coming back.

2) other than this season (or Fernandinho) would be interested to see the names of those who dropped off.
 
1) he wasn’t integral in his final season tho was he. He got ripped by Vinicius at the Etihad. He became a bit part / fill in player. Which doesn’t decry the influence he had in the locker room. Hence why he’s coming back.
Because he dropped of significantly. Why else won't the captain of the team be integral?


2) other than this season (or Fernandinho) would be interested to see the names of those who dropped off.
Zabaleta.

Yaya Toure

Bernardo

Gundogan

David Silva
 
CM/DM Rodri Nico plus 1 of
* Baleba Cameroon disappears January 130m *
* Camara Monaco Senegal disappears January. 40-50m *
Wharton HG injured 24/25 93 days 80m
Camavinga injuries 24/25 84 days 23/24 56 days 70m
Keeper Chevilier
RB Cambiaso
LB Josko/ O'Rielly no need
CB Stones injuries 24/25 144 days and counting 23/24 53 days
Ake injuries 24/25 168 days. counting 23/24. 47 days
Dias 24/25 83 days 23/24. 25 days
Akanji 24/25 100 days 23/24. 25
Nath and John sadly should go
we need another experienced Singo, can cover RB well plus Bah
AM Phil, Bobb, Echi, Marm and maybe Kev bit part another year no need
 
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Because he dropped of significantly. Why else won't the captain of the team be integral?



Zabaleta.

Yaya Toure

Bernardo

Gundogan

David Silva
A captain is about leadership. Wasn’t Walker captain until he left for AC?

Zaba - hadn’t won the league since pelegrini was in charge. Wouldn’t say he dropped off a cliff-gradually got phased out.

Yaya - had 2 immense seasons. Never happened before that or after. Was gradually phased out under Pep.

Bernardo - he was 29 when the season started. Hardly past it.

Gundo - impossible to judge - he wasn’t here last season.

Silva - in only 3 of his 10 seasons at city, did silva score more prem goals than in his final season.
 
Great so were not getting rid of deadwood and are gonna fight for top 4 again next year?
Not my choice but I can already see it happening. They will both probably sit on the bench. Thing is Pep trusts them both massively and they are both club legends. They will stay for leadership.
 
Gundo was brilliant for Germany at the Euros and still looked like the player we saw at City. Probably Barcas best player for that season too.
The signs were there at the Euros, his physicality declined big time as the tournament went on. Both him and Kroos did actually, but Kroos retired right afterwards anyway.
 

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