The Squad planning thread

Picture this

Wirtz £115
Reijnders £70
Trincao £60
Costa £45
Livramento £60


Thats KDB,Gundo,Bernardo,Eddie, and the fullback situation sorted.

I believe we have 200mill to spend at moment
Player sales/sell on clauses etc will reach close to 100mill
Club world cup money and qualifying for CL and winning fa cup will all put money in the kitty so the above while looks like fantasy, is affordable and makes a huge statement.

We may now proceed to blow our collective loads
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
Picture this

Wirtz £115
Reijnders £70
Trincao £60
Costa £45
Livramento £60


Thats KDB,Gundo,Bernardo,Eddie, and the fullback situation sorted.

I believe we have 200mill to spend at moment
Player sales/sell on clauses etc will reach close to 100mill
Club world cup money and qualifying for CL and winning fa cup will all put money in the kitty so the above while looks like fantasy, is affordable and makes a huge statement.

We may now proceed to blow our collective loads
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We can afford it not sure we can juggle the squad enough to do it, but drop Trincao and it should be manageable.
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
Picture this

Wirtz £115
Reijnders £70
Trincao £60
Costa £45
Livramento £60


Thats KDB,Gundo,Bernardo,Eddie, and the fullback situation sorted.

I believe we have 200mill to spend at moment
Player sales/sell on clauses etc will reach close to 100mill
Club world cup money and qualifying for CL and winning fa cup will all put money in the kitty so the above while looks like fantasy, is affordable and makes a huge statement.

We may now proceed to blow our collective loads
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Don't need wirtz and trincao.
Swap trincao out for another full back - we need one for both sides
 
blueparrot said:
I was thinking IF we get Wirtz and Reijnders,and that seems possible now, then we wouldn't go for or need MGW and would target homegrown for any fullbacks if Grealish and maybe Stones leave. Not the faintest idea which home grown full backs though.
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Yeah it may only be 2 out of 3 of those.

I still have Kova and Lewis on the reserves as backups.

I can see space for even a non homegrown fullback now especially if Gundogan and Bernie leave.
 
richards30 said:
I think more are going then first rumoured mate.
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I mean I already assumed from your list that Gundogan is going and one of Kova or Bernie, in terms of non homegrown, which is more than people initially thought.

Who are the additional departures you are thinking of that are taking up foreign spots?
 
richards30 said:
I think more are going then first rumoured mate.
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Maybe , but we are over the maximum now, including Phillips and Walker we need 5 out just to bing 1 into the free list of 17.So whatever non homegrown players you want in you need to start from whittling down the list from 21.
Same with the homegrown list of 4 one out one in.
 
You can see why people have an axe to grind against City when we can attract players like Haaland and Wirtz but the established clubs can't.


The theories about "legacy" and "history" go out the window.
 
WallyA said:
@Dax777 We were talking about fullbacks earlier, and I think really just 1 fullback is needed... and perhaps blasphemously we could get away with none, here is my proposal:
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With 1 fullback wide and 1 winger wide (Doku/Nunes or Nico O/Savio), is already 4 options for 2 spots.

Perhaps another fullback who can play both sides like Livramento (basically impossible imo) or Cambiasso.

Reserves: Fullback (can be foreign spot and it fits), Kovacic, Lewis, GK 3 (has to be homegrown), Echeverri and Reis (both U21 not counted to 25 man squad, same as Bah).

If I counted correctly, this is a 25 man squad with the correct foreign player alottment.

Homegrown: Nico O, Foden, Bobb, MGW, Ake, Lewis, GK 3
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I doubt we are going to see this sort of formation with 3 centre backs and 5 attacking players, seeing how we are linked to several dedicated fullbacks. I also doubt NOR is going to play (primarily) as a LW. Plus, the squad registration would only work for the Prem, as Bah, Reis, Echeverri, Khusanov etc. all count as non-homegrown in the Champions League.
For the CL,
  • Lewis & NOR still can go on the U21 B-list (players who are born on 1 Jan 2004 or after AND have spent 2 years at the club)
  • Foden, Bobb and McAtee (if he stays) all count as club-trained. Max 4
  • Carson, Stones, Aké, Grealish, MGW all count as association-trained. Max 4
  • All others (incl. Reis, Echeverri, Bah, Khusanov, Savinho) count as foreign-trained. Max 17
In essence, a serious number of the last group will need to depart (either permanently or on loan), as we are already over the limit (Reis and Echeverri were not registered in the CL so far) and linked with several foreign-trained players.

Ederson > Costa or another GK
De Bruyne > Wirtz or another AM
Grealish (?) > MGW or another CM
? > Robinson or another LB
? > Reijnders or another CM
? > Wesley or another RB
? > Reis (alternatively out on loan)
? > Echeverri (alternatively out on loan)
? > Bah (alternatively out on loan again)

Phillips and Walker leaving don't create any additional room, as they were not registered in the last period anyway.

I can't see all of Khusanov, Reis, Bah and Echeverri staying. We'd have to move on about 8 senior players (in addition to KDB, Phillips and Walker), which is an awful lot.
 
Cozmo Bozo said:
I doubt we are going to see this sort of formation with 3 centre backs and 5 attacking players, seeing how we are linked to several dedicated fullbacks. I also doubt NOR is going to play (primarily) as a LW. Plus, the squad registration would only work for the Prem, as Bah, Reis, Echeverri, Khusanov etc. all count as non-homegrown in the Champions League.
For the CL,
  • Lewis & NOR still can go on the U21 B-list (players who are born on 1 Jan 2004 or after AND have spent 2 years at the club)
  • Foden, Bobb and McAtee (if he stays) all count as club-trained. Max 4
  • Carson, Stones, Aké, Grealish, MGW all count as association-trained. Max 4
  • All others (incl. Reis, Echeverri, Bah, Khusanov, Savinho) count as foreign-trained. Max 17
In essence, a serious number of the last group will need to depart (either permanently or on loan), as we are already over the limit (Reis and Echeverri were not registered in the CL so far) and linked with several foreign-trained players.

Ederson > Costa or another GK
De Bruyne > Wirtz or another AM
Grealish (?) > MGW or another CM
? > Robinson or another LB
? > Reijnders or another CM
? > Wesley or another RB
? > Reis (alternatively out on loan)
? > Echeverri (alternatively out on loan)
? > Bah (alternatively out on loan again)

Phillips and Walker leaving don't create any additional room, as they were not registered in the last period anyway.

I can't see all of Khusanov, Reis, Bah and Echeverri staying. We'd have to move on about 8 senior players (in addition to KDB, Phillips and Walker), which is an awful lot.
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You misunderstood my system and didn't read what I wrote thoroughly (that's fine I wrote a bit). I knew the second you said I had Nico at LW (I don't have him as a LW in base shape).

It's a back 4 that tilts to one side. In one setup Nico O goes wide, in the other its Nunes, but I don't have both doing it simultaneously like Pep has been doing.

This shift to a back 3 has been Pep's go to for years, I think it will come back.

I only focused on squad registration for the prem, as it's fine if those young players don't count for the champions league, they wouldn't play anyways lol.

So yeah, my numbers still work fine for me, as does the formation setup.
 
blueparrot said:
Maybe , but we are over the maximum now, including Phillips and Walker we need 5 out just to bing 1 into the free list of 17.So whatever non homegrown players you want in you need to start from whittling down the list from 21.
Same with the homegrown list of 4 one out one in.
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Is that definitely correct because based on the premier league released squad list we still have space? Not sure if I'm missing something but we only submitted 21 players in our updated squad list with 15 being none home grown. Oscar Bobb next year comes of the under 21 list but he becomes home grown so that doesn't cause issues. It should leave us with 2 spaces none homegrown becoming 3 when KDB leaves. Again I may be missing something but that's my simple view from what the premier leagues website says.
 
Mcfc_110 said:
Is that definitely correct because based on the premier league released squad list we still have space? Not sure if I'm missing something but we only submitted 21 players in our updated squad list with 15 being none home grown. Oscar Bobb next year comes of the under 21 list but he becomes home grown so that doesn't cause issues. It should leave us with 2 spaces none homegrown becoming 3 when KDB leaves. Again I may be missing something but that's my simple view from what the premier leagues website says.
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Prem Rules and CL rules are different. Most on here go the tighter CL in examples as we rarely leave names off that one.

Current squad is here for CL for now.
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Mcfc_110 said:
Is that definitely correct because based on the premier league released squad list we still have space? Not sure if I'm missing something but we only submitted 21 players in our updated squad list with 15 being none home grown. Oscar Bobb next year comes of the under 21 list but he becomes home grown so that doesn't cause issues. It should leave us with 2 spaces none homegrown becoming 3 when KDB leaves. Again I may be missing something but that's my simple view from what the premier leagues website says.
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Correct for the CL squad,but you are right for PL since January we left new signings out of the CL squad Reis and Echeverri. We could register different squads next season but I think it's unlikely we do because we never have and not sure we'd want to now, but also we then have to tell at least 2 players they aren't being registered for champions league which might prove devisive and unpopular.
 
WallyA said:
You misunderstood my system and didn't read what I wrote thoroughly (that's fine I wrote a bit). I knew the second you said I had Nico at LW (I don't have him as a LW in base shape).

It's a back 4 that tilts to one side. In one setup Nico O goes wide, in the other its Nunes, but I don't have both doing it simultaneously like Pep has been doing.

This shift to a back 3 has been Pep's go to for years, I think it will come back.

I only focused on squad registration for the prem, as it's fine if those young players don't count for the champions league, they wouldn't play anyways lol.

So yeah, my numbers still work fine for me, as does the formation setup.
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Cool, I'm sure Hugo & Pep will be thrilled that the squad numbers work for WallyA on BM.

Our young players have historically gotten some valuable minutes in the Champions League in the past. If they can't make that squad, their chances in the Prem will be slim (see: Reis and Echeverri this half-season).

I see it as a last resort for half a season, but it should not be a systematic decision (i.e. "squad planning").
 
Cozmo Bozo said:
Cool, I'm sure Hugo & Pep will be thrilled that the squad numbers work for WallyA on BM.

Our young players have historically gotten some valuable minutes in the Champions League in the past. If they can't make that squad, their chances in the Prem will be slim (see: Reis and Echeverri this half-season).

I see it as a last resort for half a season, but it should not be a systematic decision (i.e. "squad planning").
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Then just loan them, in terms of squad planning, it's not a big priority for me on how we deal with u21 players who do not affect the foreign player alottment for the prem.

Having them play prem, and not champions league, is not much of a problem in my eyes considering how little play they will see anyways, you can disagree.
 
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