The Squad planning thread

richards30 said:
Not now it seem due to their relegation but it does seem we promised them a loan signing and Echeverri isnt really going to play much next season is he?
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Can promise them anything, I’d imagine it’s contingent on them being an actual decent team. They are a shambles and we will have no part in that
 
decmancity said:
Can promise them anything, I’d imagine it’s contingent on them being an actual decent team. They are a shambles and we will have no part in that
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I`m sure Jack Gaughan mentioned that part of the Lyon negotiation ended with us promising them a loan signing as well?
 
Dribble said:
This is the ensuing battle. Guardiola wanting to remain loyal to his elderly, injury ridden, tried & tested treble winners, but the club wishing to dispense with their services & look to the future.

With KDB failing to get an extension, & most of Pep's backroom staff not having their contracts renewed, my feeling is the club are already demonstrating our immediate future is being taken out of Guardiola's hands.

I seriously don't see the sense in Echeverri, Bobb, Reis & Khusanov etc who are City’s future, being loaned out so we can eek a final tune out of Stones, Gundog, Kovacic & Grealish etc.

I get the feeling the club would rather take a step back with the players who'll form the foundation in 2025/26, so we can take massive leaps forward from 2026/27 onwards.

Pep tried it his way & essentially ran our ageing squad into the ground, & did little by way of succession planning. You could see how irked Khaldoon was about this.

My guess & my wish is that Manchester City move on to the future, & say thank you & goodbye to our past.
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This is my hope too, but I do think a lot of the uncs are just going to hang on to their contracts. this happened in guardiola's first season with Sagna, Clichy and a few others, sometimes it just is what it is and you have to wait a year.

I hope your right tho.
 
Dribble said:
This is the ensuing battle. Guardiola wanting to remain loyal to his elderly, injury ridden, tried & tested treble winners, but the club wishing to dispense with their services & look to the future.

With KDB failing to get an extension, & most of Pep's backroom staff not having their contracts renewed, my feeling is the club are already demonstrating our immediate future is being taken out of Guardiola's hands.

I seriously don't see the sense in Echeverri, Bobb, Reis & Khusanov etc who are City’s future, being loaned out so we can eek a final tune out of Stones, Gundog, Kovacic & Grealish etc.

I get the feeling the club would rather take a step back with the players who'll form the foundation in 2025/26, so we can take massive leaps forward from 2026/27 onwards.

Pep tried it his way & essentially ran our ageing squad into the ground, & did little by way of succession planning. You could see how irked Khaldoon was about this.

My guess & my wish is that Manchester City move on to the future, & say thank you & goodbye to our past.
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Spot on.
 
K-Bo said:
This is my hope too, but I do think a lot of the uncs are just going to hang on to their contracts. this happened in guardiola's first season with Sagna, Clichy and a few others, sometimes it just is what it is and you have to wait a year.

I hope your right tho.
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I have a feeling things maybe different this time around. Viana will be key in this respect. He'll want to prove himself quickly, & he can't do that if we prioritise the ailing basis of the treble winning squad, over our future squad.

If we win nowt next season, but show huge promise ready for 2026/7, I think Hugo will be afforded that period of grace, as being the reset we needed. The one thing I doubt he'll abide is Pep making final decisions which reflect on Viana. Viana seems the type who's happy to succeed or fail by his own hand, but not by anyone else's.

This is why I think KDB wasn't offered an extension & why most of Guardiola's backroom staff were cleared out. I also think everyone can sense we've something very special brewing at Manchester City, so it doesn't surprise me that the "Uncs" want to be a part of the coming revolution whilst retaining their City wages.

However, I also sense the club want to draw a line under our recent past, so we can regroup & redouble our efforts to again reach the apex of world football. We can't allow Guardiola & our ageing superstars to hinder that process in any way, shape or form.
 
Will be interesting to see who will be our max 6 international loans:

1 - Kayky, til end 2025 to Bahia/Brazil.
2 - Bah, to Nice as it seems.
3 - Kaboré back from Bremen, no update
4 - Walker back from Milan, no update
5 - Perrone, maybe to Como on a permanent?
6 - free - Couto off the books -> Dortmund

So, we don't have much room for our leavers,
but they could go on domestic loans (in unlimited numbers).

Phillips, Grealish, McAtee, maybe Stones/Gundo/Kova...
We'll see.
 
Dribble said:
This is the ensuing battle. Guardiola wanting to remain loyal to his elderly, injury ridden, tried & tested treble winners, but the club wishing to dispense with their services & look to the future.

With KDB failing to get an extension, & most of Pep's backroom staff not having their contracts renewed, my feeling is the club are already demonstrating our immediate future is being taken out of Guardiola's hands.

I seriously don't see the sense in Echeverri, Bobb, Reis & Khusanov etc who are City’s future, being loaned out so we can eek a final tune out of Stones, Gundog, Kovacic & Grealish etc.

I get the feeling the club would rather take a step back with the players who'll form the foundation in 2025/26, so we can take massive leaps forward from 2026/27 onwards.

Pep tried it his way & essentially ran our ageing squad into the ground, & did little by way of succession planning. You could see how irked Khaldoon was about this.

My guess & my wish is that Manchester City move on to the future, & say thank you & goodbye to our past.
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Brilliant post.
 
Dribble said:
I have a feeling things maybe different this time around. Viana will be key in this respect. He'll want to prove himself quickly, & he can't do that if we prioritise the ailing basis of the treble winning squad, over our future squad.

If we win nowt next season, but show huge promise ready for 2026/7, I think Hugo will be afforded that period of grace, as being the reset we needed. The one thing I doubt he'll abide is Pep making final decisions which reflect on Viana. Viana seems the type who's happy to succeed or fail by his own hand, but not by anyone else's.

This is why I think KDB wasn't offered an extension & why most of Guardiola's backroom staff were cleared out. I also think everyone can sense we've something very special brewing at Manchester City, so it doesn't surprise me that the "Uncs" want to be a part of the coming revolution whilst retaining their City wages.

However, I also sense the club want to draw a line under our recent past, so we can regroup & redouble our efforts to again reach the apex of world football. We can't allow Guardiola & our ageing superstars to hinder that process in any way, shape or form.
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1005 percent, but if they hunker down and the ball is in city's court to say leave them out of the squad or freeze them out of training in order to get them out, I don't think we'll go that far and haven't in the past with players with much less of a legacy at the club then these guys have.

It could be that pep will cave an accept running with a bigger squad for a year, or it could be younger players pay the price, or maybe itll go spectactularly well and they'll all get gone. Hard to see how it happens tho logistically. Could totally see us selling a player nobody expects like Doku or Rico Lewis instead to make the numbers work.
 
St.Pauli support said:
Will be interesting to see who will be our max 6 international loans:

1 - Kayky, til end 2025 to Bahia/Brazil.
2 - Bah, to Nice as it seems.
3 - Kaboré back from Bremen, no update
4 - Walker back from Milan, no update
5 - Perrone, maybe to Como on a permanent?
6 - free - Couto off the books -> Dortmund

So, we don't have much room for our leavers,
but they could go on domestic loans (in unlimited numbers).

Phillips, Grealish, McAtee, maybe Stones/Gundo/Kova...
We'll see.
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Think I saw somewhere in here that Reis and Echeverri if they stayed in this country they would become homegrown though nobody seemed quite sure, so if that’s true and they do get loaned may be a consideration to keep them in England.
 
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