The Titanic

Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Some interesting facts from those in the know on both the sub and how to find it on the Jeremy Vine radio show just now.
Some bloke who has done the trip in it explained that once they hit bottom they knew they were within 500metres of essentially a giant scrap yard and steel debris field, but they had no way of knowing how close or in which direction due to the pitch darkness there. He described it as just scrabbling around on the ocean floor for an hour and half looking for something.
Sounds fucking ludicrous, and predictably lethal.
If stuck on the seabed they are stuck waiting for a rescue that is virtually impossible. If they have popped up its a needle in a haystack and then it needs conditions to be such that someone can be physically able to undo the bolts that seal it.
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So those gps tabs don’t work 13k bottom of the ocean
 
ancoats said:
what's the time scale the people in the sub got, I heard 96 hours but that was from yesterday,
Does the recovery if possible take so much time to bring it back up safely,

also, does it have any way to turn carbon dioxide back into oxygen, I heard somewhere that Nasa have the technology on the spaceships and spacestations
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They were saying early Thurs morning before air runs out on ITV this morning.
 
mosssideblue said:
It had a pinger to inform those on the roof the vessel is good, and that works at all design depths. Auto pings every 15 mins, but it went tits up on Sunday shortly after it dived
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Was listen to someone that say the bottom is just soft mud so lose power drop in that mud that sub could just disappear
 
As a slight aside, i watched the Kursk drama the other day and it was very very good.
They had a device on the sub for cleaning the air but if it touched water it instantly ignited.

www.bbc.co.uk

Kursk: The Last Mission

The crew of the submarine Kursk head out for an ill-fated exercise in the Barents Sea.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
The BBC have a live feed on Newfoundland. What do they think is going to happen? It’s just going to bob up?!
 
Structural integrity could’ve failed and it’s now like a squashed coke can. Who knows what’s happened.
Navy guy on the radio today said. It was a garden shed operation inside it. With a few laptops and a computer game joy stick. Not something he would’ve gone in.
 
bluevillain said:
Structural integrity could’ve failed and it’s now like a squashed coke can. Who knows what’s happened.
Navy guy on the radio today said. It was a garden shed operation inside it. With a few laptops and a computer game joy stick. Not something he would’ve gone in.
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Very unlikely the pressure hull as filed as thy are designed with a large margin
 
mosssideblue said:
It will have some form of CO2 absorbsion facility, but not aware of any ways of converting it back into oxygen. Mil subs carry 02 candles for emergency use, but wouldn't think this vessel carries them
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You worked on Subs did you not Mossi? Regardless of the differences in kit and vessels which is clearly huge, I'm guessing you out of all the people on this forum must have more of an understanding than anyone as to how these poor people are feeling and you must have enormous empathy.
 
I would do the decent thing and kill myself. I get claustophobic in a Matallan changing room never mind something that is the size of a car, two and half miles down in a completly hostile and alien environment with over 350 times more pressure than sea level knowing full well you're going to die in the freezing cold anyway, very shortly. Got to be the most god awful way to die, I really wish them all well but much bigger planes and ships have been lost in much shallower waters and never found.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
You worked on Subs did you not Mossi? Regardless of the differences in kit and vessels which is clearly huge, I'm guessing you out of all the people on this forum must have more of an understanding than anyone as to how these poor people are feeling and you must have enormous empathy.
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I spent over a decade serving on subs in some very hostile environments and fully respect all submariners of all nations. The risks are real, even for military platforms and near misses occur, even on the best designed boats (even experiencing one myself).

I have total empathy for those poor soles on this sub and they will know that (if still alive now), that the clock is ticking and air will be running out.

Fingers crossed they are found but I fear they will not make it because of the lack of readily available rescue equipment in the near vicinity.

If they are to perish, it would be kinder for the pressure hull to have collapsed, rather than run out of air.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
I would do the decent thing and kill myself. I get claustophobic in a Matallan changing room never mind something that is the size of a car, two and half miles down in a completly hostile and alien environment with over 350 times more pressure than sea level knowing full well you're going to die in the freezing cold anyway, very shortly. Got to be the most god awful way to die, I really wish them all well but much bigger planes and ships have been lost in much shallower waters and never found.
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How?
Beat yourself to death with a PlayStation handset?
 
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