The Title Race - 2023/24

[alexmcity]

I agree we can't afford to get beat no matter what the points difference is.

But just to be clear, there will still be 10 games to play once we've been to Anfield, and they've got a tricky last handful of games.

We can afford to get beat, provided that the points difference after the game at Anfield is within 5 pts. If we are only 5 pts off the top after Anfield, I will back us to win the title from there. When people say they can't see Liverpool dropping points, they are in the grip of the recency bias. I can see Liverpool drawing/losing 4 from the last 10 games.

It will be close, though. Wouldn't be surprised if we won the title by 1 point again.

 

[chris85mcfc]

We can afford to get beat, provided that the points difference after the game at Anfield is within 5 pts. If we are only 5 pts off the top after Anfield, I will back us to win the title from there. When people say they can't see Liverpool dropping points, they are in the grip of the recency bias. I can see Liverpool drawing/losing 4 from the last 10 games.

It will be close, though. Wouldn't be surprised if we won the title by 1 point again.

I just think beating us could really give them the lift they need to just plough through the remaining games.

I'm not convinced they really think they can win it, but beating us there and it being a 5 point lead could give them the belief.

I'm with you though, I don't envisage them even winning all their games prior to meeting us, so if we win all of ours, we'd go there top of the league (or with a game in hand to do so).

 

[Alfie Budd]

We can afford to get beat, provided that the points difference after the game at Anfield is within 5 pts. If we are only 5 pts off the top after Anfield, I will back us to win the title from there. When people say they can't see Liverpool dropping points, they are in the grip of the recency bias. I can see Liverpool drawing/losing 4 from the last 10 games.

It will be close, though. Wouldn't be surprised if we won the title by 1 point again.

One thing worth considering about the dippers game in the big picture of the title race is that if they get through to the Carabao Cup final, they will very likely have (unless their game scheduled for the weekend of the final gets rearranged quickly) a game in hand over us when we meet at Anfield which puts a slightly different dynamic on what points gap we could be looking at.

 

[Axel Freed]

Yep Anfield it out biggest game we have to win for me and we don't win there!

It’s no more or less important than Burnley at home, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.

 

[Alfie Budd]

It’s no more or less important than Burnley at home, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.

Every game is big but a game against your main rivals is of added significance for no other reason than you have a direct influence on what happens to them. A win means they drop three points in addition to us gaining those points.

 

[alexmcity]

Yep Anfield it out biggest game we have to win

It's too early to tell whether we need a result at Anfield.

If we go there top of the league, which is not unlikely to happen as they have more difficult games in that period and we'll probably play more games than them anyway (they'll have a game in hand due to the league cup final), a draw would be a perfectly good result.

The idea that we need to win there is based mostly on overrating Liverpool, i.e., on the expectation that they are a super team that's going to win virtually all games. It's not impossible to happen, but it's not likely either. 85 pts win the league. Last season, I was saying that 88 pts would win the league even when Arsenal were on course to 100 pts. Might be wrong, but I think 85 pts win the league this season. Liverpool are likely to drop more points than some on here expect.

Also, Arsenal are not out of it yet. IF they beat Liverpool in 2 weeks, they'll be there too.

 

[waspish]

It’s no more or less important than Burnley at home, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.

Look at our record at Anfield and because we only drew at home we have to win there for me to put a marker down for the last few games

 

[Father Paul]

It will depend if we are ahead of them or behind if we 2 points and we lose it will be harder to win the league with only few games left.

You can never be sure how crucial any given game turns out to be but the trip to see the dippers might decide matters. It is fairly clear in my mind that the two games against Arsenal, which we won convincingly, had a huge impact on the destination of the title last season.

 

[Father Paul]

I just think beating us could really give them the lift they need to just plough through the remaining games.

I'm not convinced they really think they can win it, but beating us there and it being a 5 point lead could give them the belief.

I'm with you though, I don't envisage them even winning all their games prior to meeting us, so if we win all of ours, we'd go there top of the league (or with a game in hand to do so).

Unless our defence tightens up like it did last season we will not win the league or probably either of the cups as well.

 

[Axel Freed]

Look at our record at Anfield and because we only drew at home we have to win there for me to put a marker down for the last few games

I take your point but I don’t think stuff like that really matters.

They put a marker down when they beat us in the 2014 run in yet a few games later “we’re all singing Edin Dzeko “