The Title Race - 2023/24

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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GaudinoMotors said:
Arguably - not going by results at Anfield though and their game is to let us have the ball - and the 1 - 4 away was behind closed doors and wan't a crunch game.
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Our last four results were two draws, a win and a loss.

They're the second best side in the Premier League, and have a style that doesn't suit us, so are always going to be tough, but there really hasn't been any sign of Liverpool having a hoodoo over City for years. We've dominated games, and forced them to sit back and concede possession, just like we do pretty much everywhere.

The last really poor game was the coach smasher, when there were some awful decisions, and even that was six years ago.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I think our club just has some sort of mental block at Anfield.
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I think it's just one of those things. Sometimes random chance throws up weird stats, like United apparently not having lost from a leading half time position for a thousand games or somesuch before Sunday.

Bookies have us favourites...
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I think it's just one of those things. Sometimes random chance throws up weird stats, like United apparently not having lost from a leading half time position for a thousand games or somesuch before Sunday.

Bookies have us favourites...
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We had a mental block at Arsenal for years and Spurs' new stadium till this season. These strange things do seem to happen in football. I didn't realise LFC had not won at Forest for about 16 visits there. As you say just weird stats. Not saying the crowd doesn't have an impact but there are so many other factors.
 
bluenova said:
Our last four results were two draws, a win and a loss.

They're the second best side in the Premier League, and have a style that doesn't suit us, so are always going to be tough, but there really hasn't been any sign of Liverpool having a hoodoo over City for years. We've dominated games, and forced them to sit back and concede possession, just like we do pretty much everywhere.

The last really poor game was the coach smasher, when there were some awful decisions, and even that was six years ago.
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And yet our players make mistakes they don't usually, we don't retain possession as well as normally. Put it down to Liverpool just being good - but in my opinion the lack of our usual confidence is also contributory.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
And yet our players make mistakes they don't usually, we don't retain possession as well as normally. Put it down to Liverpool just being good - but in my opinion the lack of our usual confidence is also contributory.
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Would you say they're like rabbits in the headlights at the Etihad?

They've only got one win since Pep arrived, and that was the very odd second leg in the Champions League QF.
 
Axel Freed said:
Our defence cops a lot of unjustified flak. The way we play leaves us open to counter attacks by quality teams but in spite of this we’ve only conceded more than one in a league game on one occasion since we knuckled down after the World Cup.
Individually they’re outstanding as is Eddie behind them

Our vulnerability to counters is massively exaggerated by the media desperate to find any chink in our armour but it’s really not that much of an Achilles heel as the stats bear out.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if come the end of the season we once again have the best defensive record.
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Need to check your facts. Off the top of my head, Chelsea 4-4, Palace 2-2; Wolves 1-2.

I agree with your basic point though, it’s incredibly difficult to defend in this City team at times.
 
bluenova said:
Our last four results were two draws, a win and a loss.

They're the second best side in the Premier League, and have a style that doesn't suit us, so are always going to be tough, but there really hasn't been any sign of Liverpool having a hoodoo over City for years. We've dominated games, and forced them to sit back and concede possession, just like we do pretty much everywhere.

The last really poor game was the coach smasher, when there were some awful decisions, and even that was six years ago.
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We've got to keep it tight in the first 20 mins. I've put a list below of our results there under Pep in the league (plus the CL game at Anfield). The number of times we conceded in the first 15 minutes is crazy. You can see there's been a clear change in the last 4 trips. We were unlucky to lose last time out. They had 2 shots on target and it was a high profile error from Cancelo. Otherwise our management of the game was spot on.

Results in league under Pep (plus CL to highlight issue)

13 Dec 2016 Liv 1-0 City (Wijnaldum goal after 8 mins)
14 Jan 2018 Liv 4-3 City (Oxlade Chamberlain goal after 9 mins)
4 Apr 2018 Liv 3-0 City (Salah goal 12 mins) - Champions League
07 Oct 2018 Liv 0-0 City
10 Nov 2019 Liv 3-1 City (Fabinho goal 6 mins)
7 Feb 2020 Liv 1-4 City (0-0 HT)
3 Oct 2021 Liv 2-2 City (0-0 HT)
16 Oct 2022 Liv 1-0 City (0-0 HT)

They can't play with the same intensity for 90 minutes. They come flying out of the blocks, the crowd react and our high risk possession football often ends up with us gifting them space and chances. They want us to lose the ball close to our goal, or they want to draw us up the pitch onto them to turn it over and quickly attack the space our defence leaves. We just need to take the safe option for the first 20 minutes. Clear our lines, play forwards and play a less risky style until the crowd die down, and they will, as we know. Then we can impose ourselves. There will be that fraction more time on the ball and we can start to grow into the game.
 
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