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The Title Race - 2023/24
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TrentGrisham
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I agree with Gary here. The addition of Rice has made them rock-solid at the back, and while he's likely a big part of the reason their attack has dipped off, they still have more than enough quality to make up for it and win games 1-0,2-1, etc.
The title winner will either be City or Arsenal. Liverpool could get in the mix but for whatever reason, I just don't see it happening for them this season.
Ducado
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As a club we don't like leading the pack never have done, we just lurk in the background let others get giddy at their prospects and the next thing they know we are breathing down their necks, I think there's some interesting psychology involved, we just never get giddy, last season was exactly the same although I am not sure if the world cup break helped or hindered us, because I remember us being off par in the early part of the season, I am relaxed about it of course i want us to win everything we are in, but if we don't so what
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I think Gary’s memory of last year is a little faulty. They absolutely had some crappy performances and still got wins last year. One of the most notable was the win in the 97th minute against Bournemouth on a Reiss Nelson goal for Arensal. I think Arsenal is largely the same level of team they were last year.I agree with Gary here. The addition of Rice has made them rock-solid at the back, and while he's likely a big part of the reason their attack has dipped off, they still have more than enough quality to make up for it and win games 1-0,2-1, etc.
The title winner will either be City or Arsenal. Liverpool could get in the mix but for whatever reason, I just don't see it happening for them this season.
2018/19 my favourite so but only in hindsight after Gundo’s free kick at the Amex gave us an unassailable lead. The prior 2 months were absolute torture metaphorically living on the absolute edgeStill my favourite ever season, although last one ran it fucking close!
Andy TheCatalyst Morrison
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I genuinely do not understand this “we got 4 points from those games” last season mentality. So what? It has absolutely no bearing on this season.I think we are really struggling in the league this season.
We’ve already dropped points in vital games where we got maximum points last season ( Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea ) plus a bit of a freak result at Wolves.
I’ll always back us at home but it’s the away games that we’ve got left where we will continue to slip up imho.
We’ve still got to go to Anfield, Spurs, Forest, Geordies, Villa, Brighton and Brentford. We got a total of 4 points from those games last season. We had already won the title by the time we got to Brighton and Brentford though so you could say we had the two finals on our minds.
Sadly, I think we will just run out of steam/motivation after last seasons exertions.
Obviously, I hope I’m wrong and Pep and the players can dig deep and continue to bring success.
We've won 23 and drawn 1 of our last 24 home games. Does that mean that we’ll win 23 and draw 1 of our next 24? I mean, I hope so, but I very much doubt it!
The 1-0 win for Arsenal against City at the Emirates would have been impossible last year. Arsenal were horrible, miserly at the back, lots of tactical fouls and time outs, knees and pushes by Saliba on Haaland, a bit of Atletico about them but despite missing Saka they stank out a 1-0 win without City ever looking likely to score.I agree with Gary here. The addition of Rice has made them rock-solid at the back, and while he's likely a big part of the reason their attack has dipped off, they still have more than enough quality to make up for it and win games 1-0,2-1, etc.
The title winner will either be City or Arsenal. Liverpool could get in the mix but for whatever reason, I just don't see it happening for them this season.
Wasn't pretty but if they'd gone toe to toe
with City they'd have gotten picked off so they do have the ability to win 'ugly' now.
You're right to a point, but we were missing our 3 best players. Take out your 3 best and what do you thinkg the result would be?The 1-0 win for Arsenal against City at the Emirates would have been impossible last year. Arsenal were horrible, miserly at the back, lots of tactical fouls and time outs, knees and pushes by Saliba on Haaland, a bit of Atletico about them but despite missing Saka they stank out a 1-0 win without City ever looking likely to score.
Wasn't pretty but if they'd gone toe to toe
with City they'd have gotten picked off so they do have the ability to win 'ugly' now.
We had Saka out for the whole match, Martinelli was half fit and came on 2nd half and our central midfield anchor was Jorginho. So both teams were missing players and Saka is unquestionably our best attacker.You're right to a point, but we were missing our 3 best players. Take out your 3 best and what do you thinkg the result would be?
I agree with Gary here. The addition of Rice has made them rock-solid at the back, and while he's likely a big part of the reason their attack has dipped off, they still have more than enough quality to make up for it and win games 1-0,2-1, etc.
The title winner will either be City or Arsenal. Liverpool could get in the mix but for whatever reason, I just don't see it happening for them this season.
Imo, they won't win more points than last season. 2nd or 3rd.
We had Saka out for the whole match, Martinelli was half fit and came on 2nd half and our central midfield anchor was Jorginho. So both teams were missing players and Saka is unquestionably our best attacker.
You are free to dream but...you barely created any good chances against a team without vital players like Stones, Rodri and KDB plus Dias, Grealish and Kovacic in poor form, Doku new to the league, etc., and needed a deflection to score a late goal. The Ake chance in the first half was better than all your chances combined. Ake was unfortunate in that game, shit happens. You hope you have improved, City move on and prepare to show what City can do. Time will tell.
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All I wanted to point out in my original post is that kind of dour gritty performance was beyond Arsenal last year but this year they can win ugly. I didn't say Arsenal were better than City so this isn't a willy waving exercise. Merely pointing out the differences between last year that's all.You are free to dream but...you barely created any good chances against a team without vital players like Stones, Rodri and KDB plus Dias, Grealish and Kovacic in poor form, Doku new to the league, etc., and needed a deflection to score a late goal. The Ake chance in the first half was better than all your chances combined. Ake was unfortunate in that game, shit happens. You hope you have improved, City move on and prepare to show what City can do. Time will tell.
Good job in these temperatures, it's like a walnut whip.I didn't say Arsenal were better than City so this isn't a willy waving exercise.
That was the day they won the league wasn't it.I think Gary’s memory of last year is a little faulty. They absolutely had some crappy performances and still got wins last year. One of the most notable was the win in the 97th minute against Bournemouth on a Reiss Nelson goal for Arensal. I think Arsenal is largely the same level of team they were last year.
I think Gary’s memory of last year is a little faulty.
It is. City played exceptional football in the final months, trashing in the process Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern and Real by 3-4 goals, and Leipzig 7:0 before that. Pragmatic my arse.
All I wanted to point out in my original post is that kind of dour gritty performance was beyond Arsenal last year but this year they can win ugly. I didn't say Arsenal were better than City so this isn't a willy waving exercise. Merely pointing out the differences between last year that's all.
Fair play. The question is whether Arsenal have added that quality to the strengths they already had or at the expense of another valuable quality. There are trade-offs. Will be interesting. In any case, I prefer Arsenal to win if we don't. Think Arsenal have a better team than Liverpool but these play with more confidence. The game in 3 weeks will be telling.
Yeah. I still think we'll finish 2nd behind City as City have more gears than us to go up but re the strengths this season vs last, last year we could smash teams offensively but going up against the counter attacking sides (eg Man Utd) or teams like City who were even better offensively we would come up short. Case in point the match at the Emirates vs City last year. Many City fans think City smashed Arsenal because of the scoreline but the reality is Arsenal had more possession and some excellent half chances, more than City. But when City needed it they had that extra quality via KDB, Haaland etc to take the type of chance that Arsenal wouldn't have been able to take.Fair play. The question is whether Arsenal have added that quality to the strengths they already had or at the expense of another valuable quality. There are trade-offs. Will be interesting. In any case, I prefer Arsenal to win if we don't. Think Arsenal have a better team than Liverpool but these play with more confidence. The game in 3 weeks will be telling.
Well we don't have a Haaland, and whilst we have offensive quality we can't wheel out a Silva or a Doku if Saka/Martinelli aren't at it so we've had to adapt and realise in a straight gunfight we will lose 8 tines out of 10 to City. Really, the Dippers were the only side who were able to go toe to toe in an attacking gunfight against City but that was when they had Salah, Mane and Firmino up front.
ali benarbia's studs
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3 horse race.... Arsenal, Liverpool are improved again and Ourselves.
Spurs, scum and Newcastle will only scalp the odd point off challengers (like every one else in the league) as they chase 4th.
Spurs, scum and Newcastle will only scalp the odd point off challengers (like every one else in the league) as they chase 4th.
The one where people say daft shit and we then draw 3 games in a row.What title race?