The Tottenham Thread (Merged)

LongsightM13 said:
mcmanus said:
Shafter the Stokie and shackattack, Everton's lone correspondent to planet earth, are worthy of mention

And don't forget the Bolton Chick.

Liverpool fans don't seem to hang around for long though......Shame really, their perspective on a few things this season would be interesting (and I don't just mean Suarez and racism).

But back to Spurs. Would be interested to know if they have changed the way they play when Ade is missing. Only seen them with him this season, and want to know what to expect on Sunday.
 
more lazy than useless said:
But back to Spurs. Would be interested to know if they have changed the way they play when Ade is missing. Only seen them with him this season, and want to know what to expect on Sunday.

As long as we don't get nervous and start hoofing it, not having Ade will not be a massive problem. Defoe's general play and awareness have improved greatly in his current stay here, and has on occasion shown that he can play up front alone if blessed with someone behind him in the hole with creativity in abundance. Not the best example for here but his hatrick for England near the start of last season with Rooney playing behind him was terrific, if VDV can pull the strings like Rooney did that day (I know it wasn't against quality opposition) it may do some damage to you. Unfortunately Defoe also got injured after that game, out for 3/4 months after that which screwed us up a bit....

On the other hand, Defoe might get a little over excited and start shooting anytime he gets the ball in an overzealous attempt to impress and this will quite literally play in to Hart's hands (see what I did there...).

As a Spurs fan I hope we give the Defoe VDV partnership a better chance to develop, it didn't work against you or Utd at the start of the season but now we have a fully motivated Modric and Parker in the middle it will give the attacking two a stronger basis to begin attacks from.

Shame Sandro's out though as he is made for games like these.
 
mcmanus said:
Right then. Fucking huge match lads.

Can our Spurs contingent gave their honest AND biased views about Sunday. Cards on the table time.

I think it depends on what I was talking about in my last post, the Defoe/VDV chemistry comes off then I'd say we have a realistic chance of winning, if it doesn't it gets alot more difficult.

A lot depends on Richards being fit for you as well I guess. Is Clichy fit as well? On current form Lennon/Walker would do some damage to Kolarov
 
mcmanus said:
Right then. Fucking huge match lads.

Can our Spurs contingent gave their honest AND biased views about Sunday. Cards on the table time.

I think we can give City a game if we play well. Ade is a big loss though, so I'm guessing Pav or Defoe upfront with VDV playing behind

I'm more confident playing City now then say 2-3 months ago. With Kompany and Yaya out we will see more of the ball. Kompany would have easily dealt with Defoe or Pav I reckon.

I think we're good enough to get a draw but the bookies don't feel the same way.

I love Dawson but if a world class striker plays against him he doesn't always cope well. That's why King needs to play.

I'd take a draw before the ball is even kicked.
 
Will Spurs please make their minds up! Before the Wolves game they were title contenders, telling all and sundry that they've got what it takes. Since then, all's I've heard is that they'll be happy with a CL spot, and today that they'd take 3rd now if offered. If that's the case they won't turn up on Sunday and just hand us the points, surely.

Spurs do have a realistic shot this season, just like us and the rags, and should be treated accordingly. Pile the pressure on, it's what a title challenge is all about.
 
The Future's Blue said:
Will Spurs please make their minds up! Before the Wolves game they were title contenders, telling all and sundry that they've got what it takes. Since then, all's I've heard is that they'll be happy with a CL spot, and today that they'd take 3rd now if offered. If that's the case they won't turn up on Sunday and just hand us the points, surely.

Spurs do have a realistic shot this season, just like us and the rags, and should be treated accordingly. Pile the pressure on, it's what a title challenge is all about.

Nothing has changed.

Spurs are in the hunt for the Title, but City are favourites.

Even if we manage to beat City at Eastlands on Sunday, City will still be favourites for the Title.
 
THFC6061 said:
The Future's Blue said:
Will Spurs please make their minds up! Before the Wolves game they were title contenders, telling all and sundry that they've got what it takes. Since then, all's I've heard is that they'll be happy with a CL spot, and today that they'd take 3rd now if offered. If that's the case they won't turn up on Sunday and just hand us the points, surely.

Spurs do have a realistic shot this season, just like us and the rags, and should be treated accordingly. Pile the pressure on, it's what a title challenge is all about.

Nothing has changed.

Spurs are in the hunt for the Title, but City are favourites.

Even if we manage to beat City at Eastlands on Sunday, City will still be favourites for the Title.
You may need to tell that to some of your compatriot's, or to those journo's who have changed their tune, or even to some of the players and manager who are now trying to seriously play it down.

You say nothing has changed but prior to the Wolves game it had, now prior to this weekends game it's all done an about turn, trying to take some of that giddiness away.

Well, whichever way it goes this weekend you'll still be in with a shout. There's a long way to go yet and just think, if the games go for you this weekend you could actually be 2nd. No pressure though.
 
"'To be honest, you would have a chance,' Redknapp told one journalist. 'I'd fancy you to manage them. You'd win the league."

Ah, to be ignorant.
 
mcmanus said:
pudge said:
Page 100!

On topic; any injuries in the spurs camp?

A few posts on here suggest King aint playing. Even though his knees are like that of an 80 year old lady I rather play Spurs without him. Without his fitness problems Wio and Terry would have a lot fewer caps

King could still start on Sunday, but he's still very doubtful.

Gallas, Huddlestone and Sandro are out and Adebayor is ineligible but apart from that, Harry has a full strength Spurs squad to choose from.
 
I hope we hammer Spurs on Sunday but the real reason I am posting on this thread is that this is the 1000th post on it.
 
DTeacher said:
I hope we hammer Spurs on Sunday but the real reason I am posting on this thread is that this is the 1000th post on it.
Actually, your post was the 1000th reply so overall it was post number 1001.
 
James Lawton: Cry God for Harry, Spurs and a return of football values

Tottenham, while not exactly paupers, have played their way into contention for the title


If tribal instincts hadn't become so rampant, if undiluted hatred didn't so often appear to be the most persuasive currency in the national game, we might have something like consensus on this weekend of potentially significant Premier League action. It might be expressed in one simple exhortation, the one that goes: "Come on, Spurs."

Manchester City supporters are of course granted exclusion from any such obligation. Understandably, they are proud of a team that in the shape of engaging and hugely talented figures like Sergio Aguero, David Silva and, when he joins us for a little while on Planet Earth, Mario Balotelli, have become progressively agreeable.

However, Tottenham surely demand the affection, and yes, the support, of a wider audience because they so regularly produce beautiful football at considerably less than ruinous cost to the idea that the ability to make a team, to have it strong and creative at every point, is still within the scope of a football man as intuitive as their manager, Harry Redknapp.

City, like Chelsea before them, paid their way with unprecedented resources into the elite which used to be a private club occupied by Manchester United and Arsenal, who provide the second phase of tomorrow's double-header in the knowledge that Arsène Wenger's problems have sharply eroded the old edge of their rivalry.

Tottenham, while not exactly paupers, have played their way into contention for their first title since the one conjured from among the stars by such as Blanchflower and Mackay, White and Jones 51 years ago. If it happens, today's Spurs will not suffer too much in comparison with the team which won England's first European prize and played with a brilliant hauteur that persuaded the young Manchester United player John Giles that they had arrived from another civilisation.

This week Redknapp has been banging on to an unusual degree about the nature of his club's return to prominence, how it has come not from the happenchance of a desert wind bearing undreamt riches but old fashioned nous in appreciating the true value of players.

Yesterday he was again cranking up the pressure on himself as much as City by saying that players like Luka Modric, Rafael van der Vaart and Gareth Bale would be given their heads and their hearts. He said he hated the possibility of returning to London without "having a go". If Redknapp sounds like a man on the edge, it is because he is – and who can blame him after considering the stakes at the Etihad Stadium.

City and Spurs have, after all, formed the habit of breaking each other in pivotal matches. Spurs did it to City the season before last and won themselves a brief but thrilling adventure in the Champions League. City returned the wound last season, though without quite the same impact in Europe.

Tomorrow the City requirement is to slash through Tottenham belief as they did at White Lane a few months ago, soon after United had apparently exposed Redknapp's team as no more than occasionally frisky lightweights. That has been made to look bizarre by the force of the Spurs recovery. If Tottenham's high street had burned, so too had the illusions of the football club – but only briefly.

Now, with just one League defeat since then – and that a dire piece of larceny at Stoke – it is hard to dispute Redknapp's claim that his team represent a force for good.

Apart from putting up the value of their playing staff by upwards of £50m, with Bale on the shopping lists of Real Madrid and Barcelona, coming from under the shadow of Chelsea's assumption that next to City they have the price of anything that moves in English football and retaining the services of one of the game's most creative players in the £16m Modric, Spurs are challenging for the title with a squad that cost only slightly more than half of City's outlay – £153m to £294m.

While City have been stymied by the Uefa financial regulations which will acquire teeth in just two years' time, Spurs operate within comfortable margins.

It is a stunning story in that it represents what has always been the best hope that English football might one day be rescued from a financial death march for all but such recipients of random wealth as Chelsea and City. Spurs have not enjoyed such sudden largesse. Instead they have shaped their own future, with their own wits and their own financial management.

Meanwhile United, defying the downturn of their ability to buy the most expensive players, remain favourites to hold off the might of City. This is mostly a tribute to the extraordinary resilience of Sir Alex Ferguson, whose relatively recent generosity towards the achievements of Wenger is surely evidence that he believes at least one old dispute is consigned to history.

Spurs, though, are a separate story. It is one that tomorrow, surely, will commend itself to almost the entire football nation.


Big Spenders: Cost of tomorrow's teams

Manchester City:
Hart £600,000
Richards Youth
Savic £6m
Lescott £22m
Clichy £7m
De Jong £18m
Barry £12m
Milner £24m
Silva £24m
Nasri £25m
Aguero £38m

Total cost: £176.6m


Tottenham Hotspur:
Friedel Free
Walker £4.5m
Dawson £4m
King Youth
Assou-Ekotto £3.5m
Lennon £1m
Parker £5.5m
Modric £16.5m
Bale £7m
Van der Vaart £8m
Defoe £16m

Total cost: £66m


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-and-a-return-of-football-values-6292518.html
 

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