The Trajectory coming to haunt us?

[lionheart]

Re: The Trajectory?Lets keep an eye on it.

Of the remaining games I think it will play out like this

Fixtures:
Stoke v Man City, W
Man City v Liverpool, W
Chelsea v Man City, L
Man City v Tottenham, D
Sunderland v Man City, W
Fulham v Man City, D
Man City v Wigan, W
Burnley v Man City, W
Man City v Birmingham, W
Man City v Man Utd, D
Arsenal v Man City, L
Man City v Aston Villa, W
West Ham v Man City, W
Man city Everton W

That gives us 30 points from the last 14 games. Leaving us on 74 points. I think it will finish us on around 71-74 points and dippers and Spurs on 69-70. Its going to be close.

Sorry mate but we will NOT win at Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley and West Ham. We may scramble one win and three draws, maximum. We are also not going to beat Liverpool, Villa and Everton at home. One win and two draws, maximum. It frankly worries me that so many City fans are so completely biased that they cannot see the wood for the trees.

 

[JULES]

Re: The Trajectory?Lets keep an eye on it.

Of the remaining games I think it will play out like this

Fixtures:
Stoke v Man City, W
Man City v Liverpool, W
Chelsea v Man City, L
Man City v Tottenham, D
Sunderland v Man City, W
Fulham v Man City, D
Man City v Wigan, W
Burnley v Man City, W
Man City v Birmingham, W
Man City v Man Utd, D
Arsenal v Man City, L
Man City v Aston Villa, W
West Ham v Man City, W
Man city Everton W

That gives us 30 points from the last 14 games. Leaving us on 74 points. I think it will finish us on around 71-74 points and dippers and Spurs on 69-70. Its going to be close.

Sorry mate but we will NOT win at Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley and West Ham. We may scramble one win and three draws, maximum. We are also not going to beat Liverpool, Villa and Everton at home. One win and two draws, maximum. It frankly worries me that so many City fans are so completely biased that they cannot see the wood for the trees.

right then, as you seem to think you can see into the future, whats the lotto numbers for this week. may I suggest that next time you use words or phrases like, "in my opinion" or perhaps,"I dont believe".

 

[scall11]

We're not doing too badly with regards the 70-point target:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8200/mcfcpoints.jpg

 

[BetterDeadThanRed]

What is a tractorberry ????

 

[avoidconfusion]

Re: The Trajectory?Lets keep an eye on it.

Sorry mate but we will NOT win at Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley and West Ham. We may scramble one win and three draws, maximum. We are also not going to beat Liverpool, Villa and Everton at home. One win and two draws, maximum. It frankly worries me that so many City fans are so completely biased that they cannot see the wood for the trees.

My god aren't you an optimistic fella...

 

[Impeccable]

It was something he shouldn't said, made him come across as a dick.

More confident of us reaching 70 points under Mancini than Hughes though.

I wouldnt be so sure personally.

Mancini.s Away Stats to date.
Everton 2 Man City 0
Hull 2 Man City 1

Mark Hughes away Stats.

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City

Teams in bold type are similar in League Tier position to Hull..

Wolves away matey!!!!! Throw in a couple of away wins in the FA Cup, too

 

[wayne71]

He's just being realistic, we cant win away from home and out of our remaining 7 home games we have liverpool, rags, everton, spurs & villa so we aint going to win all of them, we'll finish around 62 points imho.

 

[stonerblue]

Re: The Trajectory?Lets keep an eye on it.

Sorry mate but we will NOT win at Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley and West Ham. We may scramble one win and three draws, maximum. We are also not going to beat Liverpool, Villa and Everton at home. One win and two draws, maximum. It frankly worries me that so many City fans are so completely biased that they cannot see the wood for the trees.

My god aren't you an optimistic fella...

might as well give up now eh?

I'm no 'happy clapper' but fuckin hell man, you're optimism makes me look like Delia

 

[BurnCK]

How’s the TRAJECTORY Mr.Cook after the last 2 away defeats? Were cutting it mighty close I would guess.

Which is why Hughes was sacked. It would be unfair to expect Mancini to hit that target now after Hughes effectively f*cked it up with all those draws.

 

[jamiegrimble]

Wolves away matey!!!!! Throw in a couple of away wins in the FA Cup, too

Cheers.
For the Record.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton Hughes reign.
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini Home games:
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City Hughes reign.
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City
Wolves 0 Man City 3 Mancini Away games.
Everton 2 Man City 0
Hull 2 Man City 1

 

[jamiegrimble]

We're not doing too badly with regards the 70-point target:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8200/mcfcpoints.jpg

Thanks scall,appreciated.
By my calculations, I make us 1 point below the Trajectory Line set by Mr.Cook.The Line itself is bang on 45 points at the 24 Games played stage. We have achieved 44 points at this stage.

 

[Blue Suede Shoes]

Here's more tractor-berries for those who likes graphs: A whole shitload in fact:

<a class="postlink" href="http://bubbly.colliberty.com/league/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bubbly.colliberty.com/league/</a>

I'll make that page pretty in some future, and probably add more different statistics and graphs, but I don't promise it stays up. It depends on how much of my bandwidth it steals. ;-) In fact, requests for stats and graphs are welcome, and I'll see what I can do. I'm not going to do player stats, though. (It's all done in Python, so if there are more Python programmers here that want to help I'll put up a project on Google code and make the code open source).

The red dotted line is projection on season form, the green line is projection based on last six games.

(oh, and the order of the graphs is random, so that United is first it just bad luck.)

 

[Blue Suede Shoes]

And now it's prettier, and in alphabetical order, order, and also includes the 6-game form.

For those complaining about Mancini: If all the teams play as the last six games, City will end up third! :) Admittedly that's mostly because Arsenal hasn't been playing that great, and lost to Liverpool. So don't get your hoped up, it's probably just a fluke. But fourth place *should* be ours!

 

[jamiegrimble]

For those complaining about Mancini: If all the teams play as the last six games, City will end up third! :) Admittedly that's mostly because Arsenal hasn't been playing that great, and lost to Liverpool. So don't get your hoped up, it's probably just a fluke. But fourth place *should* be ours!

Enjoyed your Graphs BSS, appreciated.
Great to see City go fourth in the Premier League Tonight.1 game in hand as well.

Post Stoke Away Game;

Updated Stats.
Played 25
Actual Points ; 45
Games left :13
Required Points To Reach Mr.Cook’s Target. 25
Trajectory Target at 25 Games Played. 47 Points
Mr.Cook's Target is 2 Points short of the projected Trajectory todate.

Seasons Results to Date.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini Home games:
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini Away games.
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City

Upcoming Fixtures:
Man City v Liverpool,
Chelsea v Man City,
Man City v Tottenham,
Sunderland v Man City,
Fulham v Man City,
Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
West Ham v Man City,
Man city Everton

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.

25 Games Played 47 Points
26 Games Played 48.5 Points
27 Games Played 50.5 Points
28 Games Played 52 Points
29 Games Played 54.5 Points
30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points

 

[jamiegrimble]

At the end of last season we set a target of a 6th place finish, that was well documented, and its created conjecture. But following the accelerated acquisition strategy and the activity of the club in the summer transfer window the new target that the playing staff agreed with the board for the 2009/10 season was 70 points. THE TRAJECTORY of recent results was below this requirement and the board felt that there was no evidence that the situation would fundamentally change as quoted in the chairman’s statement. The owner the chairman and myself all worked to give mark any resources that he might require to achieve that goal.

1 Point from the Liverpool game. Still possible to reach the Target but cutting it mighty fine, with some difficult games to come. Chelsea/Spurs/United/Arsenal/Villa/Everton.

Updated Stats Post Liverpool Home game.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini Home games:
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 - 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4-3 Man City
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini Away games.
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City

League Situation at present.
Position;5th
Played 26
Games left :12
Trajectory Target at 26 Games Played. 48.5 Points
Actual Points ; 46
A Shortfall of 2.5 points


Upcoming Fixtures:
Chelsea v Man City,
Man City v Tottenham,
Sunderland v Man City,
Fulham v Man City,
Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
West Ham v Man City,
Man city Everton

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.
26 Games Played 48.5 Points
27 Games Played 50.5 Points
28 Games Played 52 Points
29 Games Played 54.5 Points
30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points

 

[jamiegrimble]

Brilliant win against the cockneys at the Bridge,and right back on target.

Updated Stats Post Chelsea Away game.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland Hughes point tally: Possible 24 actual 18
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini point tally: Possible 15 Actual 13
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City Hughes point tally: Possible 27: Actual 11
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini point tally: Possible 15:Actual 7
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 2-4 Man City,

League Situation at present.
Played 27
Games left :11
Trajectory Target at 27 Games Played. 50.5 Points
Actual Points ; 49
A Shortfall of 1.5 points

Upcoming Fixtures:
Man City v Tottenham,
Sunderland v Man City,
Fulham v Man City,
Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
West Ham v Man City,
Man city Everton

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.

27 Games Played 50.5 Points
28 Games Played 52 Points
29 Games Played 54.5 Points
30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points

 

[bizzbo]

I have us .75 points behind target, not 1.5.

Ill share my figures with you if you like

here's a boring chart to demonstrate the relative progress of both managers....

 

[jamiegrimble]

At the end of last season we set a target of a 6th place finish, that was well documented, and its created conjecture. But following the accelerated acquisition strategy and the activity of the club in the summer transfer window the new target that the playing staff agreed with the board for the 2009/10 season was 70 points. THE TRAJECTORY of recent results was below this requirement and the board felt that there was no evidence that the situation would fundamentally change as quoted in the chairman’s statement. The owner the chairman and myself all worked to give mark any resources that he might require to achieve that goal.

Updated Stats Post Sunderland Away game.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland Hughes point tally: Possible 24 actual 18
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini point tally: Possible 15 Actual 13
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City Hughes point tally: Possible 27: Actual 11
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini point tally: Possible 18:Actual 8
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 2-4 Man City,
Sunderland 1-1Man City,



League Situation at present.
Played 28
Games left :10
Trajectory Target at 28 Games Played. 52 Points
Actual Points ; 50
A Shortfall of 2 points


Upcoming Fixtures:


Fulham v Man City,
Man city Everton
Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
West Ham v Man City,
Man City v Tottenham, To be arranged.

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.


28 Games Played 52 Points
29 Games Played 54.5 Points
30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points



-- Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:34 pm --

Updated Stats Post Fulham Away game.

Looking very achievable now IMO. 27 Points possible and still 17 needed to hit that target set by Mr.Cook and his team. A Possible Stat could be 5 more wins and a couple of draws.

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland Hughes point tally: Possible 24 actual 18
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini point tally: Possible 15 Actual 13
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City Hughes point tally: Possible 27: Actual 11
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini point tally: Possible 21:Actual 11
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 2-4 Man City,
Sunderland 1-1Man City,
Fulham 1-2 Man City,


League Situation at present.
Played 29
Games left : 9
Trajectory Target at 29 Games Played. 54.5 Points
Actual Points ; 53
A Shortfall of 1.5 points


Upcoming Fixtures:
Man city Everton
Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
West Ham v Man City,
Man City v Tottenham, To be arranged.

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.

29 Games Played 54.5 Points
30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points

-- Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:39 am --

Updated Stats Post Everton Home game.

8 Games left and 17 points to aim for to reach the 70 point Trajectory target.3 Points thrown away last night.
5 wins and 2 draws possibly is a big ask but not impossible. Not many could have foreseen us beat Chelsea away, so lets hope we can pick ourselves up after the Everton home defeat.

Upcoming Fixtures:

Man City v Wigan,
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
Man City v Tottenham,
West Ham v Man City,

Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland Hughes point tally: Possible 24 actual 18
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini point tally: Possible 15 Actual 13
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,
Man city0-2 Everton

Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City Hughes point tally: Possible 27: Actual 11
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini point tally: Possible 24:Actual 11
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 2-4 Man City,
Sunderland 1-1Man City,
Fulham 1-2 Man City,


League Situation at present.
Played 30
Games left : 8
Trajectory Target at 30 Games Played. 56.5 Points
Actual Points ; 53
A Shortfall of 3.5 points

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.

30 Games Played 56.5 Points
31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:47 am --<br /><br />Updated Stats Post Wigan Home game.

7 Games left and 14 points to aim for to reach the 70 point Trajectory target.
4 wins and 2 draws is a big ask but not impossible.

Upcoming Fixtures:
Burnley v Man City,
Man City v Birmingham,
Man City v Man Utd,
Arsenal v Man City,
Man City v Aston Villa,
Man City v Tottenham,
West Ham v Man City,

Home Games.
Man City 1-0 Wolverhampton
Man City 4-2 Arsenal
Man City 3-1 West Ham
Man City 2-2 Fulham
Man City 3-3 Burnley
Man City 1-1 Hull
Man City 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-3 Sunderland Hughes point tally: Possible 24 actual 18
Man City 2-0 Stoke Mancini point tally: Possible 21 Actual 16
Man City 4-1 Blackburn
Man City 2-0 Portsmouth
Man City 2 v 0 Bolton,
Man City 0 - 0 Liverpool,
Man city0-2 Everton
Man City3.0 Wigan,




Away Games.
Blackburn 0-2 Man City
Portsmouth 0-1 Man City
Man Utd 4 Man City 3
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Wigan 1-1 Man City
Birmingham 0-0 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Bolton 3-3 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Man City Hughes point tally: Possible 27: Actual 11
Wolves 0-3 Man City Mancini point tally: Possible 24:Actual 11
Everton 2-0 Man City
Hull 2-1 Man City
Stoke 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 2-4 Man City,
Sunderland 1-1Man City,
Fulham 1-2 Man City,


League Situation at present.
Played 31
Games left : 7
Trajectory Target at 31 Games Played. 58 Points
Actual Points ; 56
A Shortfall of 2 points

Projected Trajectory Targets required by Mr.Cook.

31 Games Played 58 Points
32 Games Played 59.5 Points
33 Games Played 62 Points
34 Games Played 63.5 Points
35 Games Played 65.5 Points
36 Games Played 67 Points
37 Games Played 68.5 Points
38 Games Played 70 Points

 

[alfienoakes]

we are 1.1 points below the target, not 2.

70/38= 1.842
1.842*31= 57.1

current points 56

shortfall 1.1

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Re: The Trajectory?Lets keep an eye on it.

Of the remaining games I think it will play out like this

Fixtures:
Stoke v Man City, W Wrong
Man City v Liverpool, W Wrong
Chelsea v Man City, L Wrong
Man City v Tottenham, D
Sunderland v Man City, W Wrong
Fulham v Man City, D Wrong
Man City v Wigan, W Law of averages Right

Burnley v Man City, W
Man City v Birmingham, W
Man City v Man Utd, D
Arsenal v Man City, L
Man City v Aston Villa, W
West Ham v Man City, W
Man city Everton W

Morning Lawro:)













Only messing mate.