The Westminster Paedophile Dossier

Crab Paste! said:
Kirkstall Blue said:
But only a small percentage of rich and powerful people as in any walk of life are peado's . Cliff never married so that makes him gay in some minds and I believe he is religious even more ammunition for some. I have never liked his music but i dont think he's a peado.

I have it on good authority that our Harry procures the services of rent boys, a very close friend of mine has seen him do it. I will add however that these 'boys' were in no way underage.

Make of that what you will.

His life partner is a former Catholic priest, too. So yes, he is gay.
 
William Hague has resigned as Foreign Secretary. I've just been following some links and this is what I found...

Hague was going to stand down at the next General Election anyway. Hague once shared a flat with gay Tory MP Alan Duncan. You may remember that Hague, when 49, also shared twin bed hotel rooms with 25 year old male aide Christopher Myers. Hague also once had a flat in Dolphin Square, Pimlico. Here's a resume of Hague sex scandals.

And here's a 2012 report about a 2000 article - published just after the findings of the Tribunal of Inquiry into child abuse in care homes in North Wales were published as 'Lost In Care - The Waterhouse Report' - that includes a piece about Dolphin Square.

It seems buggering and brutalising children is not a bar on high office within the UK, especially when the children being abused come from the dispossessed

The article below, written in 2000 by the now deceased editor of Scallywag magazine, Simon Regan, highlights the lie that the then Tory government did not know that senior British Tory politicians were abusing children. Not only in north Wales but right across the UK. Leading Tories like Peter Morrison, and it has been alleged Lord McAlpine, could not have kept their wicked ways out of the sight of the British security services, not least because they both would have been vetted for security clearance when they attained high office in the Thatcher administration.

Yet it seems buggering and abusing children is not a bar on high office within the UK let alone from receiving one of Betsy's silly gongs, especially when the children being abused come from the dispossessed. Why would it be a problem for senior officers within Mi5, they themselves used the Kincora Care Home in the six counties as an intelligence gathering operation in which senior politicians, Stormont and Whitehall civil servants, and others systematically abused children over a number of years. Indeed Magaret Thatcher's favourite spook, Maurice Oldfield, whom she appointed co-ordinator of security intelligence in Northern Ireland, was sent home in disgrace in 1980, shortly after the Kincora scandal first came to public attention after a news report in the Irish Independent.

At the time it was alleged Oldfield was part of a powerful coterie of paedophiles at the top of the British State, we now know amongst them were a number of the then prime minister Margaret Thatcher's favourites, including Oldfield, Lord McAlpine, Morrison and possibly Jimmy Savile. For he too would have been vetted before he received his Knighthood. It seems weapons of mass destruction are not the only black mark on the security and intelligence community, they could not even protect British children from abuse, indeed it looks very much like there turned a blind eye to these men's disgusting practises. While targeting decent British trade unionists as the enemy within, Margaret Thatcher had a number of paedophiles amongst her closest friends.

To conclude I would say this, when reporting this story much of the mainstream media have claimed back in the 1980s, people took a different attitude towards people who abused children than they do today. I cannot speak for Tory party circles, but back then amongst the overwhelming majority of British people it was regarded as an abomination and those who practised it were treated with contempt and hatred. Clearly this was not the case in some elitist circles, but then there has always been a differences between their morals and ours.

The Waterhouse Report
By Simon Regan.

The fact that the Waterhouse report (Into the abuses of children in the Bryn Estyn 'care home' in North Wales) went as far as it did is highly commendable, and obviously long overdue. But the trouble with any investigation which tries to break through a 'cult of silence' is the lingering doubts that it will ever get down to the whole full truth of the matter. Waterhouse is probably merely the tip of the iceberg.

The report suggests there is 'no evidence' that Freemasonry had anything to do with the scandal. Yet there were two inadequate and inconclusive police inquiries, including one into a senior officer, by a force in North Wales riddled with freemasons.

There was a consistent lack of initiative on the part of the local Clwyd CC in the face of overwhelming evidence of consistent child abuse at Bryn Estyn, ostensibly because the council insurers advised against any action. This in itself insults democracy in a way that borders on the criminal. By a policy of non-action, both the police and the council became embroiled in a blatant cover-up.

Anyone who has even vaguely become acquainted with paedophilia knows very well that they will go to the ends of the earth to keep their activities absolutely secret. They are professional experts in covering their tracks.

In the early nineties, in the now defunct Scallywag magazine, which I founded, we interviewed in some depth twelve former inmates at Bryn Estyn who had all been involved in the Wrexham paedophile ring, which the tribunal acknowledges existed. Most of these interviews were extremely harrowing and disturbing, but were gently and sensitively conducted over pub lunches where the victim could relax. We subsequently persuaded ten of them to make sworn affidavits which we proposed to use as back up to half a dozen paedophile stories we later published.

Two of these young men, who had been 14-years-old at the time, swore they had been not only introduced to the paedophile ring operating in the Crest Hotel in Wrexham but had later been escorted on three or four occasions to an address in Pimlico where they were further abused.

We took them separately to Pimlico and asked them to point out the building where this had taken place. They were both positive in their identification. It turned out to be the private flat of a well known, and since highly discredited lobbyist who later went into obscurity in some disgrace because of his involvement with Mohammed al-Fayed and the 'cash for questions' scandal. At the time we ran a story entitled 'Boys for Questions' and named several prominent members of the then Thatcher government. These allegations went to the very top of the Tory party, yet there was a curious and almost ominous lack of writs.

The lobbyist was a notorious 'queen' who specialised in gay parties with a 'political mix' in the Pimlico area - most convenient to the Commons - and which included selected flats in Dolphin Square. The two young men were able to give us very graphic descriptions of just what went on, including acts of buggery, and alleged that they were only two of many from children's homes other than North Wales.

There was, to my certain knowledge, at least one resignation from the Conservative office in Smith Square once we had published our evidence and named names.

Subsequently, over a rent dispute which is still a matter of litigation, Dr. Julian Lewis, now Conservative MP for New Forest (East) but then deputy head of research at Conservative Central Office in Smith Square, managed to purchase the contents of our offices, which included all our files. It had been alleged that we owed rent, which we disputed, but under a court order the landlords were able to change the locks and seize our assets which included all our files, including those we had made on paedophiles. It was apparently quite legal, but it was most certainly a dirty trick.

All of a sudden very private information, some of it even privileged between ourselves and our lawyer during the John Major libel action, was being published in selected, pro-Conservative sections of the media.

Subsequently, during a court case initiated by Lewis, I was able in my defence to seek discovery of documents and asked to see the seized files. The paedophile papers were missing. This is a very great shame, because Sir Ronald Waterhouse certainly should have been aware of them.

I believe that the secrecy the Establishment wraps around itself easily equals that of the paedophiles. They really do look after each other and quite professionally cover their tracks.

The real trouble about exposing paedophiles is that former victims of child abuse make lousy witnesses. By the very nature of the abuse, when they are rudely shoved out into the wide world (one of the witnesses, Stephen Messham, for example, was released on his sixteenth birthday on Christmas day after two years of abuse, and had to sleep rough on the streets for four and a half months), they are often deeply psychologically disturbed.

Some of the extreme cases commit suicide, many more were sexually disorientated in the worst possible way. Some became gay prostitutes, others drug addicts, and in nearly every case, at some stage, they needed lengthy counselling. Marriages quickly disintegrated in psychological turmoil and a lot of former victims had real difficulties raising their own children. There are very few victims of child abuse who come out of it without deep scars.

It was all very well for us to take statements from former victims in the cosy atmosphere of a pub lunch, but put them up against an agile and eminent QC whose sole task is to discredit them, and they quickly crumble, even break down in tears. Many former victims now have criminal records of some kind, owing almost exclusively to the abuse itself, and the barrister will brutally exploit this as evidence that the witness is unreliable and tainted. Faced with the choice of a clearly neurotic young man who quickly falls down in the witness box, and a smooth, experienced, erudite and often highly respected culprit, juries tend to give the accused the benefit of the doubt.

I watched it in the now famous Court 13 at the High Court during the libel action between former Supt. Gordon Anglesey and Private Eye (and others) when, despite the fact that under cross examination, Anglesey had to admit that his evidence did not correspond with his own notebooks, the 'other side' subsequently tore the five main prosecution witnesses to pieces in a monumental act of judicial harassment. Like the whole story of child abuse in North Wales and elsewhere, it broke my heart.
Simon Regan (now deceased) was editor of Scallywag Magazine.

Posted 8th November 2012 by Organized Rage
The article was written on 20 February 2000. Simon Regan died on 8 August 2000. Just saying.

The 'Boys for Questions' article can, so I read, be found online. My mate says it contains graphic detail and names names, usual suspects, that sort of thing.

Scallywag Magazine was founded by Simon Regen and his half-brother Angus James. Angus James wrote the 'Boys for Questions' article some time in 1994 and died in a road traffic accident on 7 September 1996. Just saying.

Interesting...

The final paragraph in Scallywag's Article reads "and by the way just for the record the editors of Scallwag absolutely hate satsumas"

This Satsuma reference is to Stephen Milligan who was a Tory MP and Parliamentary Private Secretary to the notorious Tory cabinet minister Jonathan Aitken. Stephen Milligan the PPS who knew too mutch. On 7th February 1994, he was reported to have been found tied to a chair with a plastic bag over his head and a satsuma stuffed into his mouth. The usual embarrassment surrounding these cases seem to have prevented the press from carrying out an in-depth investigation into various discrepancies in the case. Aitken, was known to have an particular interest in Sado-Masochistic sex - Milligan wasn't. He was a normal guy engaged at the time to a woman who is now a Tory MP.

And as if all that wasn't enough, there is this: Child Rapes at Flats Linked to MI5 - Dolphin Square in Pimlico. More dynamite.

Finally, where are those Scallywags now?
 
The Flash said:
Crab Paste! said:
Kirkstall Blue said:
But only a small percentage of rich and powerful people as in any walk of life are peado's . Cliff never married so that makes him gay in some minds and I believe he is religious even more ammunition for some. I have never liked his music but i dont think he's a peado.

I have it on good authority that our Harry procures the services of rent boys, a very close friend of mine has seen him do it. I will add however that these 'boys' were in no way underage.

Make of that what you will.

His life partner is a former Catholic priest, too. So yes, he is gay.
He enjoys the tennis at Wimbledon*. So yes, he is gay. But that's not the issue here is it?

* Anyone know where the "She enjoys the tennis at Eastbourne" euphemism comes from? It's bugging me.
 
Some interesting stuff there PTOTG. But the great British institution of the twin room must NEVER be sullied! We've ALL worked away with a colleague, booked a twin room to save some brass, had a bit too much to drink in the hotel bar, and woken up feeling just a tiny bit perturbed. It's our way of life god dammit, and we should be allowed to go about our twin room activities without being branded a nonce!


Getting serious for a moment, back in the 90's, I was living in a squat and we were violently evicted by the bailiffs. As I was sat in the street watching my stuff being smashed, a jag pulled up and out gets Aitken demanding to know why I'm blocking the road. I tell him I'm being evicted, and he says to me 'Do you know who I am'? When I said yes he replied 'Good, I fucking despise people like you, and if I had my way you would be exterminated'! I wasn't really sure what he meant by 'people like me' (I was a student and had long hair?) but it was said with such malice and venom that I still think of it often. I wasn't keen on the Tory **** before (was well chuffed when he got sent down), but he really showed his true colours there.
 
There are a lot of famous people with their fingers in everyones pies.

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Reading this thread is like being transported back in time in more ways than one. It seems that any politician or celebrity that is gay is automatically assumed to be a paedophile.
 
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Hamann Pineapple said:
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Funny how the Met & Home Office start getting criticism about cover-ups and whitewashes and then a story about how active the police are in tracking down paedophiles is splashed all over the papers.
 
Any of these 660 folk arrested MP's, or members of the House of Lords, or the legal profession, by any chance?
I'm going to take a wild stab at the answer being 'no' here.
Let's just arrest a few scoutmasters for wanking over the teenage girls in the underwear section of their Grattan catalogues, and then we can all go back to sleep.
Job done - keep moving folks - nothing to see here...
 
Plaything of the gods said:
The Flash said:
Crab Paste! said:
I have it on good authority that our Harry procures the services of rent boys, a very close friend of mine has seen him do it. I will add however that these 'boys' were in no way underage.

Make of that what you will.

His life partner is a former Catholic priest, too. So yes, he is gay.
So yes, he is gay. But that's not the issue here is it?

No, but Kirkstall Blue said that people think he's gay because he didn't marry.
I was pointing out that people think he's gay, because he's actually gay.
That news clearly hasn't reached Kirkstall yet.
 

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