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Apparently Brittan was buried today at Hoop Lane cemetery Golders Green London,wonder if the news will be full of his funeral? Yeah I very much doubt it as well.
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The Westminster Paedophile Dossier
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Chancy Termites
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...cidentally-release-names-online-10011992.htmlSex abuse inquiry: 'Victims receive death threats' after MPs release names online
Survivors of sex abuse say they have received death threats and been approached by their abusers, after MPs published their details online last week.
As part of its inquiry into how the Home Office handled historical sex abuse, the House of Commons’ Home Affairs select committee revealed the identities of four victims on its website.
In a letter to Home Secretary Theresa May, a group of abuse survivors said: “It has exposed us as individuals, making us feel vulnerable, and is having a huge impact on our work.”
Keith Vaz, the chair of the inquiry, published an unedited version of the 96-page document, but has since redacted the names of the survivors of abuse and other sensitive details.
The documents were made public in a bid to support claims that a member of the Home Office’s abuse panel, Sharon Evans, had been bullied by another member of the inquiry team.
In a letter to Home Secretary Theresa May, seen by The Daily Telegraph, a group of 18 victims - including the four named in the documents - said they had been left feeling vulnerable and exposed.
In one case, they said that one of the victims and his young daughter had been "targeted" by a convicted abuser.
They said that views expressed in the documents by some of the members of the independent panel inquiry into child sex abuse had added to their distress.
"Named individuals/survivors have been subjected to social media hate campaigns as a result of the disclosures and negative attitudes expressed by some panel members," the letter stated, according to the Telegraph.
"It has exposed us as individuals, making us feel vulnerable and having a huge impact on our work and organisations.
"The tabloids have called for comment with information on our family members and we have received death threats."
Sources told Sky News that Home Secretary Theresa May has written to Mr Vaz describing her “dismay” at the publication of the documents. The source added Mr Vaz was now in the process of apologising to 18 members of the group.
The Home Affairs select committee said in a statement: "Last week, some material from the Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse came into the Committee’s possession in the course of our inquiry. The material included directions to Panel members about how they should answer questions from the Committee, as well as e-mail exchanges between Panel members about the Panel’s external communications strategy.
"These e-mails included the names of third parties who were not members of the Panel. At the request of the individuals concerned, and of the Panel Secretariat, the material has been redacted to remove references to these individuals."
named in the documents - said they had been left feeling vulnerable and exposed.
In one case, they said that one of the victims and his young daughter had been "targeted" by a convicted abuser.
They said that views expressed in the documents by some of the members of the independent panel inquiry into child sex abuse had added to their distress.
"Named individuals/survivors have been subjected to social media hate campaigns as a result of the disclosures and negative attitudes expressed by some panel members," the letter stated, according to the Telegraph.
"It has exposed us as individuals, making us feel vulnerable and having a huge impact on our work and organisations.
"The tabloids have called for comment with information on our family members and we have received death threats."
Sources told Sky News that Home Secretary Theresa May has written to Mr Vaz describing her “dismay” at the publication of the documents. The source added Mr Vaz was now in the process of apologising to 18 members of the group.
The Home Affairs select committee said in a statement: "Last week, some material from the Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse came into the Committee’s possession in the course of our inquiry. The material included directions to Panel members about how they should answer questions from the Committee, as well as e-mail exchanges between Panel members about the Panel’s external communications strategy.
"These e-mails included the names of third parties who were not members of the Panel. At the request of the individuals concerned, and of the Panel Secretariat, the material has been redacted to remove references to these individuals."
No doubt it was just a perfectly innocent accident. I'm sure that the last thing Vaz and May want is for anyone who actually was abused to feel like they couldn't give evidence to an enquiry, should there ever actually be a proper one.
Margaret Thatcher warned of paedophile scandal, secret documents reveal
Margaret Thatcher the former prime minister, was kept fully informed about an investigation into a senior diplomat who was embroiled in a paedophile scandal, newly-released secret documents show.
Mrs Thatcher received a stream of memos from officials about the “unnatural sexual proclivities” of Sir Peter Hayman.
The prime minister was carefully coached on how to deflect difficult questions about the affair after it was finally exposed by Private Eye magazine in 1980.
The documents disclosed for the first time that Hayman had been engaged in “sexual perversion” since at least 1966, when he was a minister in the British military government in West Berlin.
The 37-page dossier set out how the then Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided not to prosecute the diplomat after he was caught with a collection of paedophile material in 1978.
t also shows the DPP never informed the government or the security services about Hayman’s proclivities, despite concerns enemy spies could have been blackmailing him for sensitive information during his time abroad.
The new information appeared to undermine claims that the decision not to prosecute Hayman was part of an Establishment conspiracy to cover up child abuse.
It said the decision was not referred to the security services at all, either because Hayman was already retired or because there was a communications breakdown between DPP and MI5.
“An attempt was made to contact Security Services [by the DPP] when the first police report was under consideration,” the dossier said.
“The contact was unavailable and his secretary said he would ring back – he did not do so.
“Later, the final decision not to prosecute was reached and the need to chase the unreturned telephone call was overlooked.”
The documents also said Hayman’s offence was not serious enough to merit charges, according to policies then in force.
The papers demonstrate Whitehall’s shock at its failure to detect Hayman’s activities earlier, and concerns that vetting procedures may need to be stepped up to prevent a repeat of the mistake.
However, it remains unexplained why Hayman’s arrest for possessing paedophile material was hushed up between 1978 and the publication of the Private Eye story two years later.
The file contains a memo in Mrs Thatcher’s handwriting to Sir Michael Havers, the then Attorney General.
On 10 Downing Street notepaper, and dated March 20, 1981, it says: “So that there be no doubt, I leave to your judgment whether or not you are interviewed on media or TV about the Hayman matter.”
Signed “Margaret”, the memo is the final chronological entry in the file which has been released to the National Archives, titled "PREM 19/588 SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects.”
Robert Armstrong, the Cabinet Office Permanent Secretary, said in a memo to the prime minister marked “Secret” that it was a “difficult question” why no-one in government was told by Sir Thomas Hetherington, the DPP, about the police investigation into Hayman.
“It would be better not to be drawn on this aspect in a way which could lead to the need for a further statement,” he wrote.
In the event, no questions on the Hayman affair were asked during prime minister’s questions in the Commons that week.
Another significant disclosure in the dossier is a memo from the Attorney General's office which refers to Hayman's diaries.
"It is understood that they were recovered from the police by the Director [of Public Prosecutions] for the undisclosed purpose of being made available to the Security Services," it says.
The diaries were said to be "explicit and detailed records of his sexual activities and fantasies".
The dossier does not explain what happened to the diaries, how they were examined by the security services or the outcome of their analysis.
Hayman, who died in 1992, was named as an abuser of children by Geoffrey Dickens MP and had links to the controversial Paedophile Information Exchange.
The case has been cited by campaigners as evidence of how paedophiles in the highest levels of government had their activities covered up.
Widespread concern about institutional abuse has led Theresa May, the Home Secretary, to set up a major new inquiry into how government handled the issue over decades.
The files show Hayman was discovered to be corresponding with an unknown person who had "an obsession about the systematic killing by sexual torture of young people and children".
But no evidence was found that Hayman ever sent material relating to sexual torture.
Last December Scotland Yard announced it was investigating the alleged murder of three young boys linked to a Westminster paedophile ring active in the late Seventies and early Eighties.
The papers said: “It is clear that Sir Peter Hayman was already engaging in sexual perversion in 1966 when he returned from Berlin to the Foreign Office, and it must be presumed that he was doing so before that time.”
While Hayman was posted to Canada, obscene correspondence began arriving at the High Commission in Ottawa, they said, “apparently as a result of advertisements placed in a pornographic magazine”.
A member of the domestic staff was blamed at the time, it said, but “the latest report raises the question whether it should have been laid at Sir Peter’s door”.
It has previously been claimed that Hayman worked for MI6 and even that he was deputy chief of the Secret Intelligence Service.
The dossier makes clear that he was a career diplomat and not a spy.
The secret memo from Sir Robert says: "It was not the case that he 'had an intelligence background'."
Another document in the file - also marked 'Secret' - says: "Sir Peter Hayman was a member of the Diplomatic Service."
John Mann MP, who has been instrumental in the campaign on behalf of abuse victims, welcomed the file’s release.
“It is important that these secret files are opened up, so this is potentially a significant development,” he said.
“We need to see more of them being released – in fact, we need to see all of them.”
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11381191/Margaret-Thatcher-warned-of-paedophile-scandal-secret-documents-reveal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... eveal.html</a>
Margaret Thatcher the former prime minister, was kept fully informed about an investigation into a senior diplomat who was embroiled in a paedophile scandal, newly-released secret documents show.
Mrs Thatcher received a stream of memos from officials about the “unnatural sexual proclivities” of Sir Peter Hayman.
The prime minister was carefully coached on how to deflect difficult questions about the affair after it was finally exposed by Private Eye magazine in 1980.
The documents disclosed for the first time that Hayman had been engaged in “sexual perversion” since at least 1966, when he was a minister in the British military government in West Berlin.
The 37-page dossier set out how the then Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided not to prosecute the diplomat after he was caught with a collection of paedophile material in 1978.
t also shows the DPP never informed the government or the security services about Hayman’s proclivities, despite concerns enemy spies could have been blackmailing him for sensitive information during his time abroad.
The new information appeared to undermine claims that the decision not to prosecute Hayman was part of an Establishment conspiracy to cover up child abuse.
It said the decision was not referred to the security services at all, either because Hayman was already retired or because there was a communications breakdown between DPP and MI5.
“An attempt was made to contact Security Services [by the DPP] when the first police report was under consideration,” the dossier said.
“The contact was unavailable and his secretary said he would ring back – he did not do so.
“Later, the final decision not to prosecute was reached and the need to chase the unreturned telephone call was overlooked.”
The documents also said Hayman’s offence was not serious enough to merit charges, according to policies then in force.
The papers demonstrate Whitehall’s shock at its failure to detect Hayman’s activities earlier, and concerns that vetting procedures may need to be stepped up to prevent a repeat of the mistake.
However, it remains unexplained why Hayman’s arrest for possessing paedophile material was hushed up between 1978 and the publication of the Private Eye story two years later.
The file contains a memo in Mrs Thatcher’s handwriting to Sir Michael Havers, the then Attorney General.
On 10 Downing Street notepaper, and dated March 20, 1981, it says: “So that there be no doubt, I leave to your judgment whether or not you are interviewed on media or TV about the Hayman matter.”
Signed “Margaret”, the memo is the final chronological entry in the file which has been released to the National Archives, titled "PREM 19/588 SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects.”
Robert Armstrong, the Cabinet Office Permanent Secretary, said in a memo to the prime minister marked “Secret” that it was a “difficult question” why no-one in government was told by Sir Thomas Hetherington, the DPP, about the police investigation into Hayman.
“It would be better not to be drawn on this aspect in a way which could lead to the need for a further statement,” he wrote.
In the event, no questions on the Hayman affair were asked during prime minister’s questions in the Commons that week.
Another significant disclosure in the dossier is a memo from the Attorney General's office which refers to Hayman's diaries.
"It is understood that they were recovered from the police by the Director [of Public Prosecutions] for the undisclosed purpose of being made available to the Security Services," it says.
The diaries were said to be "explicit and detailed records of his sexual activities and fantasies".
The dossier does not explain what happened to the diaries, how they were examined by the security services or the outcome of their analysis.
Hayman, who died in 1992, was named as an abuser of children by Geoffrey Dickens MP and had links to the controversial Paedophile Information Exchange.
The case has been cited by campaigners as evidence of how paedophiles in the highest levels of government had their activities covered up.
Widespread concern about institutional abuse has led Theresa May, the Home Secretary, to set up a major new inquiry into how government handled the issue over decades.
The files show Hayman was discovered to be corresponding with an unknown person who had "an obsession about the systematic killing by sexual torture of young people and children".
But no evidence was found that Hayman ever sent material relating to sexual torture.
Last December Scotland Yard announced it was investigating the alleged murder of three young boys linked to a Westminster paedophile ring active in the late Seventies and early Eighties.
The papers said: “It is clear that Sir Peter Hayman was already engaging in sexual perversion in 1966 when he returned from Berlin to the Foreign Office, and it must be presumed that he was doing so before that time.”
While Hayman was posted to Canada, obscene correspondence began arriving at the High Commission in Ottawa, they said, “apparently as a result of advertisements placed in a pornographic magazine”.
A member of the domestic staff was blamed at the time, it said, but “the latest report raises the question whether it should have been laid at Sir Peter’s door”.
It has previously been claimed that Hayman worked for MI6 and even that he was deputy chief of the Secret Intelligence Service.
The dossier makes clear that he was a career diplomat and not a spy.
The secret memo from Sir Robert says: "It was not the case that he 'had an intelligence background'."
Another document in the file - also marked 'Secret' - says: "Sir Peter Hayman was a member of the Diplomatic Service."
John Mann MP, who has been instrumental in the campaign on behalf of abuse victims, welcomed the file’s release.
“It is important that these secret files are opened up, so this is potentially a significant development,” he said.
“We need to see more of them being released – in fact, we need to see all of them.”
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11381191/Margaret-Thatcher-warned-of-paedophile-scandal-secret-documents-reveal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... eveal.html</a>
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Anonymous are going all out to expose them building on evidence already in the public domain.
Chancy Termites
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mat said:Anonymous are going all out to expose them building on evidence already in the public domain.
Clearly the powers that be aren't falling over themselves to investigate this properly so it's looking like the only way the truth will be properly and fully aired is by leaks.
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Chancy Termites said:mat said:Anonymous are going all out to expose them building on evidence already in the public domain.
Clearly the powers that be aren't falling over themselves to investigate this properly so it's looking like the only way the truth will be properly and fully aired is by leaks.
Some on here won't accept any news if it's from "conspiracy nut jobs". They will only believe it or pay attention to it, if it comes via "mainstream media".
I think in a time where our established media chooses what information is worth sharing with us and what they'd rather we didn't know. Some of the work independent journalism does plays a vital role in keeping us informed of what is really going on.
We can only hope they continue to shed light on things the mainstream media chooses not to. Whether that be paedophiles, government or in this case, both.
Chancy Termites
Well-Known Member
ArdwickBlue said:Chancy Termites said:mat said:Anonymous are going all out to expose them building on evidence already in the public domain.
Clearly the powers that be aren't falling over themselves to investigate this properly so it's looking like the only way the truth will be properly and fully aired is by leaks.
Some on here won't accept any news if it's from "conspiracy nut jobs". They will only believe it or pay attention to it, if it comes via "mainstream media".
I think in a time where our established media chooses what information is worth sharing with us and what they'd rather we didn't know. Some of the work independent journalism does plays a vital role in keeping us informed of what is really going on.
We can only hope they continue to shed light on things the mainstream media chooses not to. Whether that be paedophiles, government or in this case, both.
Spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com
http://Www.exaronews.com
Lowell Goddard a New Zealand judge has been appointed as head of the child abuse inquiry, she has already overseen a similar inquiry in New Zealand and is well respected
Hopefully she is not tainted by the 'old boy/girl' network that operates in this country
Will this be 3rd time lucky for Theresa May in her choice?
Hopefully she is not tainted by the 'old boy/girl' network that operates in this country
Will this be 3rd time lucky for Theresa May in her choice?
Well worth a read.
<a class="postlink" href="https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westminster-sex-abuse-scandal-talking-arent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westm ... ing-arent/</a>
<a class="postlink" href="https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westminster-sex-abuse-scandal-talking-arent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westm ... ing-arent/</a>
Good read, the same names keep coming up over and over, the police have a lot to answer for as wellPinkFinal said:Well worth a read.
<a class="postlink" href="https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westminster-sex-abuse-scandal-talking-arent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westm ... ing-arent/</a>