The Westminster Paedophile Dossier

Ducado said:
One thing everyone needs to ask themselves

Is it all true? Like all conspiracy theories it all sounds plausible enough

However!

I think people are going off what they read on certain sites and taking it as gospel without looking at the motives of the particular site, I think a little bit of scepticism is sometimes needed especially about some of the more lurid claims some of the stuff I have read is bordering on the "we're all ruled by lizards from outer space"

And no this is not making light of it all, it's just that sometimes it's best to take a step back

A step back?, we're potentially talking about systematic abuse of children on an industrial scale perpetrated by the ruling elite and the wider establishment.

To relate the claims and information coming out surrounding this story to "being ruled by lizards from outer space" is ridiculous....

This is much scarier.
 
Ducado said:
blumoonrisen said:
Ducado said:
One thing everyone needs to ask themselves

Is it all true? Like all conspiracy theories it all sounds plausible enough

However!

I think people are going off what they read on certain sites and taking it as gospel without looking at the motives of the particular site, I think a little bit of scepticism is sometimes needed especially about some of the more lurid claims some of the stuff I have read is bordering on the "we're all ruled by lizards from outer space"

And no this is not making light of it all, it's just that sometimes it's best to take a step back

Very disturbing comments.. do you work for the BBC..?

What's disturbing?

We appear to have gone for a lynching mentality nowadays, I have not said that it did not happen, but people need to be a little more discerning about where they are getting their information from

Most of the information comes from those fortunate enough to have survived, although they are probably a minority.

I'm amazed you would try to defend these people on a public forum.
 
I can see where Ducado is coming from with so much froth about it's hard to see the difference between reality and fiction. But we shouldn't be complacent,these evil bastards have certainly muddied the water for us and it's up to people like us to keep discussing what we hear.
 
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When we know there's D-Notices, Super Injunctions, gagging orders or whatever you want to call them to cover up the abuse and killing of innocent children by the establishment it is important to keep talking about it.

It is all too shocking to believe for some people (but for any mod out there requesting some balance) if only a tenth of it was true it would be enough to bring the whole country and government to its knees if it finally comes out.
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
When we know there's D-Notices, Super Injunctions, gagging orders or whatever you want to call them to cover up the abuse and killing of innocent children by the establishment it is important to keep talking about it.

It is all too shocking to believe for some people (but for any mod out there requesting some balance) if only a tenth of it was true it would be enough to bring the whole country and government to its knees if it finally comes out.

If we as a people practice the mantra that "The buck stops here" we should hold people personally accountable and arrest them etc.
Where the cases like Rotherham came up arrest the people whose job it was to stop it happening.
In the case of this establishment scandal there should have been a multitude of arrests and people taken in for questioning just like the way the heads of light entertainment were brought in and named.
It's shit and it's got to change.
 
101toMR said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
When we know there's D-Notices, Super Injunctions, gagging orders or whatever you want to call them to cover up the abuse and killing of innocent children by the establishment it is important to keep talking about it.

It is all too shocking to believe for some people (but for any mod out there requesting some balance) if only a tenth of it was true it would be enough to bring the whole country and government to its knees if it finally comes out.

If we as a people practice the mantra that "The buck stops here" we should hold people personally accountable and arrest them etc.
Where the cases like Rotherham came up arrest the people whose job it was to stop it happening.
In the case of this establishment scandal there should have been a multitude of arrests and people taken in for questioning just like the way the heads of light entertainment were brought in and named.
It's shit and it's got to change.
Agree wholeheartedly, it's double standards and with a general election fast approaching there's no chance of answers any time soon.
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Cameron covered up evidence way back in 1994 when he took over at Carlton TV when Ken Clarke was being investigated for alleged abuse. Cameron as the head director, bought the Cook report that named Clarke and other high ranking officials and royals and made the Kengate tapes "disappear"

Not a lot of people know that Cameron is the Queen's cousin so there's not a chance he will expose his fellow politicians or his own Royal family.
And here, in a nutshell, is why I have a problem with stuff you post as "fact". You've got this crap about Clarke's alleged investigation from somewhere like here I assume: <a class="postlink" href="http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/david-cameron-covered-up-for-paedophiles-when-he-was-at-carlton-communications-2520666.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/dav ... 20666.html</a>

Whereas I (and any other intelligent person) read something like that and apply a healthy dose of scepticism to it, you treat it as gospel and reproduce it without any filtering whatsoever. The police investigated this claim and found that it was entirely false and without foundation. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4776/kenneth-clarke-wrongly-accused-of-indecently-assaulting-boy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4776/ ... ulting-boy</a>

Not only that, they arrested the person who made it for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. It didn't take me long to find all that out.

And this claim about Cameron being related to the Queen may have more substance but, again, you've reproduced it without any understanding of the background. The story is that Cameron may be descended from an illegitimate daughter of William IV, one of a large number of such children he apparently had. If that's the case, he's something like a fifth cousin twice removed. I'm sure it's a relationship that the Queen treasures deeply.

And you wonder why I say you post crap. Learn to develop your powers of critical analysis.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Cameron covered up evidence way back in 1994 when he took over at Carlton TV when Ken Clarke was being investigated for alleged abuse. Cameron as the head director, bought the Cook report that named Clarke and other high ranking officials and royals and made the Kengate tapes "disappear"

Not a lot of people know that Cameron is the Queen's cousin so there's not a chance he will expose his fellow politicians or his own Royal family.
And here, in a nutshell, is why I have a problem with stuff you post as "fact". You've got this crap about Clarke's alleged investigation from somewhere like here I assume: <a class="postlink" href="http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/david-cameron-covered-up-for-paedophiles-when-he-was-at-carlton-communications-2520666.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/dav ... 20666.html</a>

Whereas I (and any other intelligent person) read something like that and apply a healthy dose of scepticism to it, you treat it as gospel and reproduce it without any filtering whatsoever. The police investigated this claim and found that it was entirely false and without foundation. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4776/kenneth-clarke-wrongly-accused-of-indecently-assaulting-boy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4776/ ... ulting-boy</a>

Not only that, they arrested the person who made it for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. It didn't take me long to find all that out.

And this claim about Cameron being related to the Queen may have more substance but, again, you've reproduced it without any understanding of the background. The story is that Cameron may be descended from an illegitimate daughter of William IV, one of a large number of such children he apparently had. If that's the case, he's something like a fifth cousin twice removed. I'm sure it's a relationship that the Queen treasures deeply.

And you wonder why I say you post crap. Learn to develop your powers of critical analysis.
If the police investigated the allegations and found them to be untrue then that must be ok then,because we all have faith in the police and the judicial system in this country,come on! The police,the Freemasons,the Conservative party,the BBC are up to it to their necks in this,young vulnerable children being raped and in some cases murdered and some people on here are saying 'take it with a pinch of salt' kind of attitude,I find these people as disgusting as the culprits,we all should be out on the streets protesting and demanding justice for our children and not making lighthearted,clever little wisecracks on the subject.
 

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