Nope, if you read up in political history books not the spin from the parties you will find tories are economically a bit shit too.
As you seem to be trying to disown Blairs Labour government from 'your Labour'. Perhaps you could tell us what your Labour party have done for ordinary people in the last 40 years? Without Blair it seems to me to be mainly Tory prime ministers from Thatcher to May.
It must be so frustrating for you that the vast majority in this country don't share your political beliefs and therefore there is no remote prospect of anything like the policies you would like to see, ever being implemented. Ah well, never mind eh. Chin up and all that.New Labour disowned the Labour Party, it wasn't just a name change, take a look at third way politics, at one time bookshops groaned with books on how the third way had conquered the left to create a new party. I remember Kinnock saying at the election of Ed Miliband that he'd finally got his party back!
Blair? Led a soft Tory government in a time of plenty, he kept taxes low, PPI'd the future and let finance do as it pleased, he got out a year ahead of the crash, nice timing.
Blair, actually it was Brown, did some minor social tinkering at the edges, mostly gone or being dismantled now. Blair spends his time with right wingers these days, I'm not even sure he's still a member.
There is no my Labour, Labour is a broad church, except when it isn't, and that's when the left is in the ascendant, then the right wing do everything in their power to destroy the party, they are complete arseholes.
Blairs government did a lot for myself and my young family when we needed help. I could list them but that he helped us is enough. Again what has the Labour party Foot onwards achieved ? If it can't win elections what's the point apart from self indulgence.New Labour disowned the Labour Party, it wasn't just a name change, take a look at third way politics, at one time bookshops groaned with books on how the third way had conquered the left to create a new party. I remember Kinnock saying at the election of Ed Miliband that he'd finally got his party back!
Blair? Led a soft Tory government in a time of plenty, he kept taxes low, PPI'd the future and let finance do as it pleased, he got out a year ahead of the crash, nice timing.
Blair, actually it was Brown, did some minor social tinkering at the edges, mostly gone or being dismantled now. Blair spends his time with right wingers these days, I'm not even sure he's still a member.
There is no my Labour, Labour is a broad church, except when it isn't, and that's when the left is in the ascendant, then the right wing do everything in their power to destroy the party, they are complete arseholes.
Yeah, Tories always sweep up Labour mess.
Any more clichés you'd like to troll out today?
How about Labour always raising unemployment? There you go, I've plenty more where that came from.
It must be so frustrating for you that the vast majority in this country don't share your political beliefs and therefore there is no remote prospect of anything like the policies you would like to see, ever being implemented. Ah well, never mind eh. Chin up and all that.
You've got nothing to worry about then.
Blairs government did a lot for myself and my young family when we needed help. I could list them but that he helped us is enough. Again what has the Labour party Foot onwards achieved ? If it can't win elections what's the point apart from self indulgence.
Apart from Brexit, no, I haven't. In the staggeringly unlikely event that a party espousing your kind of politics were elected, they'd be kicked out again immediately afterwards. It won't happen of course. But if it did, it would be a blip, a temporary glitch, enabling people to see sense once more.
All very clever sounding but without policies that win votes, win elections and help people, meaningless. This Labour party isn't capable of winning a majority until it becomes capable it's just letting people down.Blair/Brown did do a lot and for a period of time things did get better. Harold Macmillan did good, in fact we never had it so good.
Now we don't.
I'm not a socialist, I'm a old fashioned Social Democrat and if Corbyn gets in that's what we'll have. Corbyn is a socialist, but the Labour Party is not a socialist Party, the manifesto for the next election will contain socialist elements, but we won't get a socialist government, if we did then there would be profound changes above and beyond anything our politics could deliver, but we will get more than just tinkering.
The fundamental fault lines in politics now are between neoliberal disciples of Hayak who believe that it is only through choices made through the "free market" that freedom can be obtained and social democrats who believe otherwise.
Hayek stated back in the late 70's that if the Conservative leader (Thatcher) had said "that free choice is to be exercised more in the market place than in the ballot box, she has merely uttered the truism that the first is indispensable for individual freedom while the second is not"
Social Democrats on the other hand claim that liberty is possible only with social justice and an equitable distribution of wealth and power, which in turn require a degree of active government intervention.
Ever wondered why the Tories keep banging on about choices in all aspects of our lives? Academies, power suppliers, healthcare and on and on, it's because for them that's freedom, that's liberty, that's it.
All very clever sounding but without policies that win votes, win elections and help people, meaningless. This Labour party isn't capable of winning a majority until it becomes capable it's just letting people down.
With respect that's your opinion, it is not a fact, powerful forces tell you that's the way it is and can never change and you might freely agree with that view, but it is a view, it is not a fact.
If there were an election tomorrow, Labour, in my opinion, would win it. And I'm pretty sure that's Theresa May's opinion as well.
The issue unfortunately for you is most people don't have such an enormous fucking great big sack of chips on their shoulder.
Of course, I can't believe what I believe because I believe it to be right, I can only believe it because of a shortcoming on my part, a grudge, or psychological malaise
How did that election go for Miliband?New Labour disowned the Labour Party, it wasn't just a name change, take a look at third way politics, at one time bookshops groaned with books on how the third way had conquered the left to create a new party. I remember Kinnock saying at the election of Ed Miliband that he'd finally got his party back!
Correct. You are utterly deluded, but clearly oblivious to the fact. And btw, increasingly offensive. I will presume the escalation in your insults is directly proportional to your realisation that your political beliefs remain in the toilet and that you have no chance of ever seeing such being implemented. Shame.
How did that election go for Miliband?
Why do you ask a question when you already know the answer?
I get paid lots of money to do so :-)Why do you ask a question when you already know the answer?
He told us all how strong he was and how he could make tough decisions like somebody who was really strong.How did that election go for Miliband?