Bill
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so called "superstars" that were actually so so.
figo
klievert.
never got those two.
figo
klievert.
never got those two.
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they flattered to deceive.
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pablozabaleta
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I thought Figo was a great player, used to love watching him. I never understood the hype around Totti, but maybe because I never really properly watched him play
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Ibrahimovic. Yeah; I know I'll get dog's abuse but sorry; I just don't see it with him.
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figo was a great player
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As internationals?
If so the king of being overhyped, ever, is Rooney.
If so the king of being overhyped, ever, is Rooney.
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Totally agree but someone will come back and go on about the amount of medals he has got.jimharri said:Ibrahimovic. Yeah; I know I'll get dog's abuse but sorry; I just don't see it with him.
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To answer that argument (and yes; I know you agreed with me. I'm not having a go at you Niall!); how many medals have John O'Shea, or Nicky Butt, or Phil Chuckle got? Does that make them world class players, or just lucky to have played in a very good side with (hate to say it) a very good manager.Niall2407 said:Totally agree but someone will come back and go on about the amount of medals he has got.jimharri said:Ibrahimovic. Yeah; I know I'll get dog's abuse but sorry; I just don't see it with him.
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bluebannana said:figo was a great player
mmm, good player, not imo deserving the status he reached. just opinion of course.
Certain players are top players, but when it comes to international football, managers have to pick players that make a top functioning team.
I believe there's a big difference between that. England have fallen down with this problem before. Trying to please Gerrard and Lampard when they can't play together. A different manager would have tried to please but Ferdinand and Terry.
I don't like either of the defenders, but the English manager went about picking the best team he could, and despite all the injuries, I think this English squad has a better chance of impressing this year than it has in the past.
It's not all about Rooney and his immaturity, or humilitating England. Or Lampard and Gerrard falling over eachother.
It's just about picking what players are best for England's chances.
Look at Ireland who have virtually no stars (with exception really to Given and maybe Keane) play incredibly well as a team.
The weaker countries are able to function as a unit incredibly well at times, they know they are poor standing alone, but will work their socks off to play for eachother.
While the star studded teams like Portugal, England, France, Holland etc always seem to have squables and disharmony in their squads.
I believe there's a big difference between that. England have fallen down with this problem before. Trying to please Gerrard and Lampard when they can't play together. A different manager would have tried to please but Ferdinand and Terry.
I don't like either of the defenders, but the English manager went about picking the best team he could, and despite all the injuries, I think this English squad has a better chance of impressing this year than it has in the past.
It's not all about Rooney and his immaturity, or humilitating England. Or Lampard and Gerrard falling over eachother.
It's just about picking what players are best for England's chances.
Look at Ireland who have virtually no stars (with exception really to Given and maybe Keane) play incredibly well as a team.
The weaker countries are able to function as a unit incredibly well at times, they know they are poor standing alone, but will work their socks off to play for eachother.
While the star studded teams like Portugal, England, France, Holland etc always seem to have squables and disharmony in their squads.