they flattered to deceive.

rael said:
Certain players are top players, but when it comes to international football, managers have to pick players that make a top functioning team.

I believe there's a big difference between that. England have fallen down with this problem before. Trying to please Gerrard and Lampard when they can't play together. A different manager would have tried to please but Ferdinand and Terry.
I don't like either of the defenders, but the English manager went about picking the best team he could, and despite all the injuries, I think this English squad has a better chance of impressing this year than it has in the past.
It's not all about Rooney and his immaturity, or humilitating England. Or Lampard and Gerrard falling over eachother.
It's just about picking what players are best for England's chances.

Look at Ireland who have virtually no stars (with exception really to Given and maybe Keane) play incredibly well as a team.
The weaker countries are able to function as a unit incredibly well at times, they know they are poor standing alone, but will work their socks off to play for eachother.
While the star studded teams like Portugal, England, France, Holland etc always seem to have squables and disharmony in their squads.

Ireland are an embarrassment to the Euros.
They have the ability of a championship side.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
rael said:
Certain players are top players, but when it comes to international football, managers have to pick players that make a top functioning team.

I believe there's a big difference between that. England have fallen down with this problem before. Trying to please Gerrard and Lampard when they can't play together. A different manager would have tried to please but Ferdinand and Terry.
I don't like either of the defenders, but the English manager went about picking the best team he could, and despite all the injuries, I think this English squad has a better chance of impressing this year than it has in the past.
It's not all about Rooney and his immaturity, or humilitating England. Or Lampard and Gerrard falling over eachother.
It's just about picking what players are best for England's chances.

Look at Ireland who have virtually no stars (with exception really to Given and maybe Keane) play incredibly well as a team.
The weaker countries are able to function as a unit incredibly well at times, they know they are poor standing alone, but will work their socks off to play for eachother.
While the star studded teams like Portugal, England, France, Holland etc always seem to have squables and disharmony in their squads.

Ireland are an embarrassment to the Euros.
They have the ability of a championship side.

And yet there they are, and they deserve to be.
14 games unbeaten run (before Croatia), and 11 clean sheets.

Never short on heart and they worked bloody hard to get there. For the first time in 10 years and they are loving it I imagine, were poor against Croatia, but I imagine they can't wait to play the world champions on Thursday. That's not something you can do every other day.

Their fans are enjoying it immensley, it's a massive lift for the country and the travelling fans contribute no end to the tourmanent, amazing atmosphere from start to end of the Croatia game.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
rael said:
Certain players are top players, but when it comes to international football, managers have to pick players that make a top functioning team.

I believe there's a big difference between that. England have fallen down with this problem before. Trying to please Gerrard and Lampard when they can't play together. A different manager would have tried to please but Ferdinand and Terry.
I don't like either of the defenders, but the English manager went about picking the best team he could, and despite all the injuries, I think this English squad has a better chance of impressing this year than it has in the past.
It's not all about Rooney and his immaturity, or humilitating England. Or Lampard and Gerrard falling over eachother.
It's just about picking what players are best for England's chances.

Look at Ireland who have virtually no stars (with exception really to Given and maybe Keane) play incredibly well as a team.
The weaker countries are able to function as a unit incredibly well at times, they know they are poor standing alone, but will work their socks off to play for eachother.
While the star studded teams like Portugal, England, France, Holland etc always seem to have squables and disharmony in their squads.

Ireland are an embarrassment to the Euros.
They have the ability of a championship side.

as have others at the tournement.
 

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