Thiago Alcantara

[BlueMoonz1977]

Interesting thread

Never saw that one at the time of the original post...interesting that it states Thiago would likely to happen in 2017-18

Quality player.

 

[Delphacito]

He has a contract until 2021, a fair few injuries on his record and when not injured, he tends to play a lot. Not entirely sure why Bayern would ever sell him to us.

Because they have James who has been better than him since he's arrived. And Tolisso is a quality young player.

 

[HaalandEffect]

Ilkay is also known to have a injury prown.

 

[Dr Jacoby]

Can’t say I’ve seen much of him in recent years but looked like another Iniesta when he was first showing some promise. I suspect he’d cost a fortune, though.

 

[domalino]

Never saw that one at the time of the original post...interesting that it states Thiago would likely to happen in 2017-18

Quality player.

I'm pretty sure it says that because his original contract ran out in 2018, so 17/18 would be the time for a transfer to happen or else Bayern wouldn't be cooperative.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Ilkay is also known to have a injury prown.

Silky isn't really injury prone in the fact that the injuries he had have been absoute horrendous ones

 

[Maldeika]

Because they have James who has been better than him since he's arrived. And Tolisso is a quality young player.

Tolisso is a b2b-player - as is Goretzka. Thiago was injured - it was great that James converted from a 10 into an 8 during that time. But James is still on loan until end of next season - a lot can happen. And a good ball possession team needs atleast 2 of this kind of players. Before James came it looked pretty dire when Thiago did not play.

Thiago and Pep - yes - pupil and teacher. But - Thiago is the one of the Bayern players that seems to have lived up the most since Pep left. Pep wanted what I call the spanish side of him - the steady passer - but tried to teach the brazilian side (the risky side and showboating) out of him. If there is players that were tired of Pep after 3 years (Thiago had more because of his time at Barcelona) - Thiago was the first one you could mention. I remember him just rolling his eyes at minute 60 of one of Pep's last Bundesliga matches - Bayern was in comfortable lead - when Pep called him to the side lines with a bunch of instructions - probably correcting the distances of the midfield players by a feet or two.

I do not know how long Thiago will stay in Munich - but if he leaves he probably will head to Barcelona and not to play under Pep again. Yes, he needed Pep to give him his first chances at Barcelona - and later to help him back into track after he did not play much in Barcelona - but there is no need now. He has emanzipated himself from a coach.

Oh - and I forgot - Bayern does not sell players with contracts that do not run out - only bench players that they do not need. But Bayern needs Thiago.

 

[ninjamonkey]

He was considered the best CM in the world last season. Where else was he supposed to kick on to?

Considered by whom? He's unquestionably a very good player, but hes not the best cm around and his injury record speaks for itself. Those free squad spots are very precious, we can't give one to a guy that probably averages about 25 games a season.

 

[Delphacito]

Tolisso is a b2b-player - as is Goretzka. Thiago was injured - it was great that James converted from a 10 into an 8 during that time. But James is still on loan until end of next season - a lot can happen. And a good ball possession team needs atleast 2 of this kind of players. Before James came it looked pretty dire when Thiago did not play.

Thiago and Pep - yes - pupil and teacher. But - Thiago is the one of the Bayern players that seems to have lived up the most since Pep left. Pep wanted what I call the spanish side of him - the steady passer - but tried to teach the brazilian side (the risky side and showboating) out of him. If there is players that were tired of Pep after 3 years (Thiago had more because of his time at Barcelona) - Thiago was the first one you could mention. I remember him just rolling his eyes at minute 60 of one of Pep's last Bundesliga matches - Bayern was in comfortable lead - when Pep called him to the side lines with a bunch of instructions - probably correcting the distances of the midfield players by a feet or two.

I do not know how long Thiago will stay in Munich - but if he leaves he probably will head to Barcelona and not to play under Pep again. Yes, he needed Pep to give him his first chances at Barcelona - and later to help him back into track after he did not play much in Barcelona - but there is no need now. He has emanzipated himself from a coach.

Oh - and I forgot - Bayern does not sell players with contracts that do not run out - only bench players that they do not need. But Bayern needs Thiago.

I am aware that you are very well-versed with whatever's going on with Bayern, but you can't possibly be using a single instance of him 'rolling his eyes' as proof that he's sick of working with Pep. Sorry but unless Thiago stated it specifically, I'm not gonna put any weight on this argument. After Pep left Bayern a couple of players from Bayern started to talk about Pep in a somewhat negative way, most noticeably Ribery. Thiago could've said something or anything about Pep but I don't think he ever did.

Now whether Bayern decides to purchase James or not, that's a whole other instance (I believe they will). 42M for a player like James who has performed very well, I might add, is a bargain. You can't even buy Sigurdsson with that price. Bayern could make money just by purchasing him and selling him outright to United.

 

[Dax777]

Considered by whom? He's unquestionably a very good player, but hes not the best cm around and his injury record speaks for itself. Those free squad spots are very precious, we can't give one to a guy that probably averages about 25 games a season.

My issue is not with whether we should get him or not. But rather I objected to the notion that "he did not kick on" meaning he did not get better or reach potential claim.

The fact that he made Budensilga team of the year, ESM team of the year and Fifapro 5th team of the year, the latter 2 being across Europe. Suggests he has more than 'kicked on''

As far as CMs go, he is pretty much around and about the best there is. So I found the "he hasn't kicked on" comment objectionable.

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