Banned Tosspot said:I don't pay for HD as it's a waste of money. Facts are facts and HD DVD was better quality. Microsoft lost out on a huge market but I'm sure there other ventures were more urgent at the time.BoyBlue_1985 said:Banned Tosspot said:Look around the 'net further and you'll find better answers regards quality.
I did before and I have now. Its no good 3 years in to a life span saying we will inctrease the capacity. Its too fucking late. The quality was the same in the end and capacity won. Sony could of moved Blu Ray to 100GB if needed so HD DVD was fucked
Its obvious you backed the loser and lost out and i feel for you but dont make stuff up
Banned Tosspot said:I don't pay for HD as it's a waste of money. Facts are facts and HD DVD was better quality. Microsoft lost out on a huge market but I'm sure there other ventures were more urgent at the time.BoyBlue_1985 said:Banned Tosspot said:Look around the 'net further and you'll find better answers regards quality.
I did before and I have now. Its no good 3 years in to a life span saying we will inctrease the capacity. Its too fucking late. The quality was the same in the end and capacity won. Sony could of moved Blu Ray to 100GB if needed so HD DVD was fucked
Its obvious you backed the loser and lost out and i feel for you but dont make stuff up
I love a good nerd fest.TheMightyQuinn said:Well this thread turned into a fucking nerd fest didn't it?
Banned Tosspot said:I don't pay for HD as it's a waste of money. Facts are facts and HD DVD was better quality. Microsoft lost out on a huge market but I'm sure there other ventures were more urgent at the time.BoyBlue_1985 said:Banned Tosspot said:Look around the 'net further and you'll find better answers regards quality.
I did before and I have now. Its no good 3 years in to a life span saying we will inctrease the capacity. Its too fucking late. The quality was the same in the end and capacity won. Sony could of moved Blu Ray to 100GB if needed so HD DVD was fucked
Its obvious you backed the loser and lost out and i feel for you but dont make stuff up
SWP's back said:I hear sjk hasn't looked back since he switched to HD.
Skashion said:I love a good nerd fest.TheMightyQuinn said:Well this thread turned into a fucking nerd fest didn't it?
TCIB said:I can assure you that the quality was the same picture wise, possibly on some very long films you would have a compressed audio format on the HD DVD.
The 30GB size limit never limited video bitrate needed though or compromised the quality of the film pressed to the HD DVD disks.
The first Blu Rays were encoded to mpeg2 (codec) which was space and bandwidth hungry.
This is the method for encoding dvd's so at first a lot of blu rays were upscaled dvd's basically.
Fow quality comparison i would look at Transformers and you will see if you analyze the video that the encodes are the same and no person could discerne a difference in quality.
Blu-ray allows for higher bitrate due to size, this was never needed though.
As a ripper/encoder there were no real differences regarding picture quality.
The same for audio, possibly on very long films you may have a compressed audio track on the HD DVD, means nothing to sound quality as the amount of compression was negligable and no person would ever notice.
I actually liked HD DVD more due to them realising copy protection or DRM as it is known was useless, ok they added AACS but knew it was pointless.
Sony however added 2 more layers that did nothing to stop peaople ripping the video, however should any of these fail then your blu ray disk was useless.
Marketing won the HD DVD - Blu Ray war, sony gained more powerful support via lots of aggressive marketing and a warchest to make sure they won.
Source:: Me, video ripper/encoder of 12 years experience.