Things that never really took off

[Skashion]

I can assure you that the quality was the same picture wise, possibly on some very long films you would have a compressed audio format on the HD DVD.
The 30GB size limit never limited video bitrate needed though or compromised the quality of the film pressed to the HD DVD disks.

The first Blu Rays were encoded to mpeg2 (codec) which was space and bandwidth hungry.
This is the method for encoding dvd's so at first a lot of blu rays were upscaled dvd's basically.

Fow quality comparison i would look at Transformers and you will see if you analyze the video that the encodes are the same and no person could discerne a difference in quality.
Blu-ray allows for higher bitrate due to size, this was never needed though.

As a ripper/encoder there were no real differences regarding picture quality.
The same for audio, possibly on very long films you may have a compressed audio track on the HD DVD, means nothing to sound quality as the amount of compression was negligable and no person would ever notice.

I actually liked HD DVD more due to them realising copy protection or DRM as it is known was useless, ok they added AACS but knew it was pointless.
Sony however added 2 more layers that did nothing to stop peaople ripping the video, however should any of these fail then your blu ray disk was useless.

Marketing won the HD DVD - Blu Ray war, sony gained more powerful support via lots of aggressive marketing and a warchest to make sure they won.

Source:: Me, video ripper/encoder of 12 years experience.

Did you make use of AnyDVD HD for your ripping at all?

My view in Blu-Ray being the superior format is that the extra space allowed for extra features i.e. Blu-Rays typically had more Picture-in-Picture, commentaries and other interactive features.

 

[tueartsboots]

Wasnt there a slimming product out with the unfortunate name of ayds? I am not big on marketing but this was probably not the best brand name for this
product!

Fucking hell, you've a good memory. These were very popular in 70s and 80s (Mum used them) The mint ones were er well mint ! Used to get a bollocking for eating them like sweets (they weren't cheap)

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[TCIB]

AnyDVD is the ripping tool of choice for new releases yes mate.

They have got a handle on the feature stuff now yeah, however HD DVD was better due to it's demand of players having 128MB of ram and a second decoder card etc. This allowed for smoother and better features for the HD DVD...

300
Blu-ray version
Special Features

ADDITIONAL SCENES of the Traitorous Hunchback and Never-Before-Seen Giant Warriors [in High Definition]
FRANK MILLER’s Vision Realized on Film [in High Definition]
300 SPARTANS – FACT OR FICTION?: The Shocking Life of a Spartan Revealed [in High Definition]
WHO WERE THE SPARTANS?: How the Actors Built Their Characters Based on Spartan Customs [in High Definition]
WEBISODES: Go on Set with the Cast and Crew
COMMENTARY by Director Zack Snyder – and MORE!

300
HD-DVD version
Special Features

ADDITIONAL SCENES of the Traitorous Hunchback and Never-Before-Seen Giant Warriors [in High Definition]
FRANK MILLER’s Vision Realized on Film [in High Definition]
300 SPARTANS – FACT OR FICTION?: The Shocking Life of a Spartan Revealed [in High Definition]
WHO WERE THE SPARTANS?: How the Actors Built Their Characters Based on Spartan Customs [in High Definition]
WEBISODES: Go on Set with the Cast and Crew
COMMENTARY by Director Zack Snyder
Exclusive to HD DVD Game Vengeance and Valor: Lead More Spartan Warriors into Battle Against Xerxes’ Forces and Test Your Combat-Hardened Knowledge of Tactics and Strategy
PICK YOUR FAVORITE SCENES: Assemble Your Favorite Clips and Create Your Own Montage
WEB-ENABLED FEATURES: Cool Mobile Downloads
BLUESCREEN PICTURE-IN-PICTURE VERSION: Director Zack Snyder Compares the Pre-CGI-Enhanced Version to the Finished Film


That said, now Sony have sorted the "profiles" out and the features are richer and generally much much better than they were.

 

[cityspud]

Cats are missing out.

 

[mcfc01]

Wasnt there a slimming product out with the unfortunate name of ayds? I am not big on marketing but this was probably not the best brand name for this
product!

Fucking hell, you've a good memory. These were very popular in 70s and 80s (Mum used them) The mint ones were er well mint ! Used to get a bollocking for eating them like sweets (they weren't cheap)

<a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7935064058166993925" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8166993925</a>

I didnt realise they had been out for that long before the the disease made the headlines.I should imagine that finished the product off or at least a new name!

 

[Skashion]

Having a combo player, I never bought two of the same for a comparison but that was the general impression I had but I'm more than prepared to take your word for it.

Shit choice of film to explain this to me by the way. I hate that film with the passion. I can remember being dragged to it by my girlfriend of the time and I can just remember when this happened:

[bigimg]http://creaturefxinc.com/cfx/images/300-giant1.jpg[/bigimg]

My reaction was pretty much:

Now Jackie Chan, those are some films I can like, obviously before he started doing the kiddy shit.

 

[tueartsboots]

Wasnt there a slimming product out with the unfortunate name of ayds? I am not big on marketing but this was probably not the best brand name for this
product!

Fucking hell, you've a good memory. These were very popular in 70s and 80s (Mum used them) The mint ones were er well mint ! Used to get a bollocking for eating them like sweets (they weren't cheap)

<a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7935064058166993925" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8166993925</a>

I didnt realise they had been out for that long before the the disease made the headlines.I should imagine that finished the product off or at least a new name!

I do now remember as a 12/13 year old making jest of the adverts (around 1982) when the Government Aids Tombstone ad came out. Product disappeared soon afterwards.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Them trainers that had a dial to do them up instead of laces, early 90s

 

[badmash]

 

[bonespost]

Phillips laser disk .