This guy determined we will fail FFPR

[S04]

This thread escalated quickly with SR making an appearance... :D
I hope he pops by when the numbers are released as well,

 

[Danamy]

Thank you for taking the time to come on here SR. I wondered if you'd be good enough to answer a question I've been struggling to elicit a response from others on, as I'm genuinely interested on your take on this, given your knowledge of FFP.

Given the new financial landscape imposed by UEFA, where do you see City sitting as a footballing force in five years time?

I personally believe that , if anything, FFP will assist City - the drawbridge effect - and that we will continue to grow as a club to the point where we are one of the top six clubs in Europe. I say this in light of the "FFP-Free" areas of committed expenditure in and around the stadium, the resources and commercial nouse of our owners, the continuing rise of English club football as a global brand and the fact that we are approaching compliance in any event.

I would really value your thoughts on the effects on my football club over the next few years of the subject that you write about with such authority. The "bigger picture" if you will.

On the cost side, City's hope would be that the investment in the academy will bear fruit, enabling the club to spend less on signing players or, more specifically, use the transfer budget primarily on world class players, as the squad would be bolstered by homegrown youngsters. Easier said than done, of course, but that's pretty much the strategy of Barcelona.

You can also add to that the money generated from selling players from the academy.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Seriously.This forum is by far the best on the internet.
So many diverse posters with so many different views. It is a credit to Ric and all members,each and everyone that we have this fantastic site.

PB called it bang on."Like having the queen pop in for a brew and a quick chat".

Swiss ramble on Bluemoon.Simply amazing.

 

[bluevengence]

This thread is like an episode of Only Fools & Horses in which some stranger is giving it the big 'un in the Nag's Head when suddenly the Driscoll brothers walk in.

Your right Bert . But Only Fools & Horses was a lot more fun .

He`s called Dave

 

[Mikeegrini]

This thread is like an episode of Only Fools & Horses in which some stranger is giving it the big 'un in the Nag's Head when suddenly the Driscoll brothers walk in.

Your right Bert . But Only Fools & Horses was a lot more fun .

He`s called Dave

Yes Trigger, he is, and always will be.........Dave

 

[blueinsa]

Really interesting interchange with Swiss Ramble.

Chaps, you will be pleased to here that I have updated the piece and the calculator.

It is now set at 'best case for City' scenario.

I have removed all the UEFA adjustments - should have done that in the first place. Just put them in if you think they will happen. And wages are now at £80m

The magic figure is £ £497740 (about £50m give or take).

I really didn't know that UEFA's RPT rules were a cut and paste from an accounting standard - genuinely thought they had carefully pulled them together - thanks to PB for that.

Interesting to see that Swiss Ramble think that, although Bridge/Santa Cruz could possibly be adjusted he thinks City can justify it and the £13m wont't be considered to be 'taking the mick'.

If I read him correctly, he seems to think that UEFA could adjust for Etihad the RPT but won't. That has always been my position on this board.

To make things easy, I have taken out the £12.8 RPT adjustment for Intellectual Property and Know How. The CFCB could contest that of course (some or all). Only add it in if you think they will (so you probably won't).

As you know it has always been my position that I thought City would fail the test. I still think that but understand that EVERYONE on the board thinks City will pass and I am in minority of one. I don't know of one person outside Twitter or Forums that has stuck their head up and said the numbers don't work. The title of this thread says is fairly well - this guy thinks City will fail FFP (still)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/all-eyes-on-manchester-city-s-ffp-results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/late ... fp-results</a>

Nobody cares what you think any more has its been shown you really dont have a clue.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Really interesting interchange with Swiss Ramble.

Chaps, you will be pleased to here that I have updated the piece and the calculator.

It is now set at 'best case for City' scenario.

I have removed all the UEFA adjustments - should have done that in the first place. Just put them in if you think they will happen. And wages are now at £80m

The magic figure is £ £497740 (about £50m give or take).

I really didn't know that UEFA's RPT rules were a cut and paste from an accounting standard - genuinely thought they had carefully pulled them together - thanks to PB for that.

Interesting to see that Swiss Ramble think that, although Bridge/Santa Cruz could possibly be adjusted he thinks City can justify it and the £13m wont't be considered to be 'taking the mick'.

If I read him correctly, he seems to think that UEFA could adjust for Etihad the RPT but won't. That has always been my position on this board.

To make things easy, I have taken out the £12.8 RPT adjustment for Intellectual Property and Know How. The CFCB could contest that of course (some or all). Only add it in if you think they will (so you probably won't).

As you know it has always been my position that I thought City would fail the test. I still think that but understand that EVERYONE on the board thinks City will pass and I am in minority of one. I don't know of one person outside Twitter or Forums that has stuck their head up and said the numbers don't work. The title of this thread says is fairly well - this guy thinks City will fail FFP (still)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/all-eyes-on-manchester-city-s-ffp-results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/late ... fp-results</a>

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkBPbJczJU[/youtube]

 

[Cobwebcat]

Really interesting interchange with Swiss Ramble.

Chaps, you will be pleased to here that I have updated the piece and the calculator.

It is now set at 'best case for City' scenario.

I have removed all the UEFA adjustments - should have done that in the first place. Just put them in if you think they will happen. And wages are now at £80m

The magic figure is £ £497740 (about £50m give or take).

I really didn't know that UEFA's RPT rules were a cut and paste from an accounting standard - genuinely thought they had carefully pulled them together - thanks to PB for that.

Interesting to see that Swiss Ramble think that, although Bridge/Santa Cruz could possibly be adjusted he thinks City can justify it and the £13m wont't be considered to be 'taking the mick'.

If I read him correctly, he seems to think that UEFA could adjust for Etihad the RPT but won't. That has always been my position on this board.

To make things easy, I have taken out the £12.8 RPT adjustment for Intellectual Property and Know How. The CFCB could contest that of course (some or all). Only add it in if you think they will (so you probably won't).

As you know it has always been my position that I thought City would fail the test. I still think that but understand that EVERYONE on the board thinks City will pass and I am in minority of one. I don't know of one person outside Twitter or Forums that has stuck their head up and said the numbers don't work. The title of this thread says is fairly well - this guy thinks City will fail FFP (still)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/all-eyes-on-manchester-city-s-ffp-results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/late ... fp-results</a>

The truth, ffplay is that nobody knows for sure. My own guess is that we might fall a little short but that we will not be punished or receive a warning.

It's nice that you have acknowledged other people's opinions and have adjusted the figures on your site even if you believe the outcome will be the same. Your site is a talking point at the very least.

Thanks to you and SW and I hope we can all carry on the chat going forward.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

If this doesn't end up in Classic Threads then nothing is deserving.

Amazing stuff. Loved reading your blog Swiss Ramble. Great to see you drop by.

 

[Cobwebcat]

.....and if PSG pass....the gloves are off ;-)