This team won't be considered great until...

Thomas Hearns said:
Back to back titles make us great. Style of play is easy on the eye but it's not a fashion show - sporting greatness is measured in terms of trophies won.

CL is to a greater or lesser extent a lottery dependent on the draw and referees and the conditions uefa impose and for me is nowhere near as important as the league is in determining our greatness or otherwise.
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Basically this. Personally, winning the league makes us a good team ( even though the football played this season has been fantastic never mind great) but in the modern era winning back to back titles is very difficult.

Retaining focus and hunger to win it again and, if Pep stays, possibly a third will make this team great irrespective of what anyone says in the media.

The Chumps League involves a lot of luck and I am deeply suspicious of UEFA and it's view of English clubs never mind City.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Champions' League should be just that! Champions of the European leagues drawn against anyone from the word go! The also rans can go in the Europa±
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No, we should allow all the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams in. Then let teams lose games and still continue. We should also seed it so the strongest teams never get to be drawn against each other until the last 16. Much more difficult than only playing champions and having a straightforward draw and lose and your out.
 
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
I disagree. There were a lot less games and some of the champions were not very good.
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They were the champions. And you could be drawn against Real Madrid / Bayern etc in the opening rounds and if you lost, you were out. No second chances, no group stage bollocks. Simple knock out. Like a cup should be. And to qualify you must be champion of your league. Much harder to win.
 
johnnytapia said:
They were the champions. And you could be drawn against Real Madrid / Bayern etc in the opening rounds and if you lost, you were out. No second chances, no group stage bollocks. Simple knock out. Like a cup should be. And to qualify you must be champion of your league. Much harder to win.
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You could also get drawn against the champions of Luxembourg et al. Not much harder, just different. Still only seemed to take off at quarter final level.
 
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