This weeks Champions League matches.

Maldeika said:
aguero93:20 said:
bayern blade said:
Bayern probable (from Kicker) :

Neuer

Rafinha
Boateng
Martinez
Alaba

Lahm
Kroos
Ribery
Schweinsteiger
Robben

Müller (Mandzukic)
I'd rather see you play Gotze as an auxiliary striker in this one, the scum aren't very good at handling them, Lahm and Schweinsteiger will dominate any 3 midfielders they can put out, especially with Martinez squeezing from defence, no need for Kroos in this game tbh, you need pacy dribblers more than lofted passes.

I hope for Lahm as a right back and for a Schweinsteiger-Kroos-Götze midfield. If all drop back like they did against Hertha that should not be to offensive. But Lahm in the defensive midfield is the more secure version.
I'd prefer to see Rafinha at RB to be honest, he's the pacier of the two and will be able to capitalise on the mistakes Buttner will inevitably make far quicker than Lahm.
The entire left side of their defence is a weak point a double team of Robben/Rafinha will tear Young/Vidic/Buttner to shreds and give the pig-poker and Gotze plenty of room inside to cause havoc.
 
Maldeika said:
If Bayern play like last Tuesday it will look like the match against City in Manchester - maybe even better as they were a lot more fluid in the forward actions against Hertha. The German zonalmarking - Spielverlagerung - called it playing with 3 false Nines (Robben, Müller, Götze) that often dropped deep into midfield and played playmakers, too. It will not be fully played like it - I expect Ribery to start - and then they certainly will not leave the flanks only to the fullbacks.

I do not know if Guardiola has the guts to start with Götze behind Müller and with Lahm at rightback - I like the partnership Müller and Götze formed in a couple of matches. It was not the formation Pep usually fields in the Bundesliga - because the teams have a very high workrate and that level of play you only can hold when you work with full concentration and energy - that's why you need to work with a striker like Mandzukic there who is physically strong and able to get through with a lot headers. And additionally with crosses.

Usually they should win comfortably - but it is knockout ties. You never know with them. The goal can be jinxed and with an error or two (and it is just humans) you can catch goals of the opponent easily.
Agree with most of that, but if Lahm is going to start playing right back (which I think he needs to when he faces better teams than United) then he needs the practice in the league games. Lahm has been the few times he has played right back this this season, because he has not played there enough. He needs to get into a rhythm there.

I agree with your ideal team selection and hope it's the team he plays. I know it's always bad to lose a player to injury, but losing Thiago might force Guardiola to play the side you suggested.

In a one off game there is a chance however, slim of anything happening, but over two legs you really have to mess up to not go through. With the level of this United team and the players they have missing it would be a disaster for Bayern to go out.
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Else - I think Chelsea has more chances against PSG than you give them. I even think that Chelsea will make it. They are a team that is experienced in this knockout tournaments.
Chelsea's new team is actually not as experienced as you think. The old guard are, but they are now relying on the newer younger generation which is not quite at the level of the old. Mourinho basically called them cowards on the weekend after they lost to my team and said they lacked balls. PSG are also more experienced than you are giving them credit for. Thiago Silva, Zlatan, Motta, Alex and Maxwell are very experienced players. PSG have more quality for me.
Barca should make it. And Real. At the tie between Real and Dortmund I am not really sure what I want. I really cannot stand CR7 - for me he just is the antifootballer. And yes - I like some of the Dortmund players - but not the officials, not some of the players and not the club at all. Let Real win and we will throw them out in the semi finals... ;)
I want Dortmund to win, but barring Reus pulling off a miracle don't think they have much chance. They really need Hummels and Reus to step up.

Lastly I completely disagree with you about Ronaldo. I remember seeing Messi make his debut and right from the first game it was apparent (except for injury or going wild) he would be the best player in the world. I actually saw Ronaldo when he was 17 too and was impressed, I thought he had world class potential, but never imagined he could become one of the all time greats. Through hard work, dedicated and the unyielding desire to be the best he has pushed himself into competing with Messi. He has his faults (which Messi has the exact same ones too), but he is model footballer and is an example to all young players.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Lastly I completely disagree with you about Ronaldo. I remember seeing Messi make his debut and right from the first game it was apparent (except for injury or going wild) he would be the best player in the world. I actually saw Ronaldo when he was 17 too and was impressed, I thought he had world class potential, but never imagined he could become one of the all time greats. Through hard work, dedicated and the unyielding desire to be the best he has pushed himself into competing with Messi. He has his faults (which Messi has the exact same ones too), but he is model footballer and is an example to all young players.

It is not Ronaldo's abilities why I do not like him - it is this egoistic approach and all of the show making. For me football is about team and not about individuals. I prefer seeing 2 or 3 players going through the opposition playing passes with each other to any 1vs1s.

I want to see emotions - not 11 models that try to look best on the footballing pitch. And I just do not like his attics. When he stands there for his freekicks I would like to stand in front of him and kick his balls... I do not mind the players making advertisings and trying to get the most out of their career - but that starts off the pitch - not on.

Believe me - there is a lot players that work hard on their defiencies to be good in the match - it is not only Ronaldo...
 
"]Gary Neville is handing out betting tips now it seems:
Gary Neville suggests pace will be key for Manchester United if they are to have a chance of beating Bayern Munich tonight.

Writing in United's programme, Neville says: "It's the toughest draw we could have faced. Bayern are superb defensively, very good on the ball and counter-attack well. For my money they're the best team in Europe.

"If there is a weakness for Bayern, the centre-backs don't like quick movement in around them."

Can United beat Bayern? Which players will be key to the outcome of the match?
Yes Gary, Pace
What do the Bayern fans on here think of this meister game plan? :)
 
The problem with pace is the high line - but actually Neuer is standing there, too. And there is still the offside rule.

The pace of the defenders? Boateng never had problems to deal with CR7 or Robben when he played against them. Martinez might have.

But - there is a statistics about goals for and against this season in Bundesliga in a 12-second-period after receiving the ball. And Bayern only had 2 goals against in the 12 seconds after which the opponent won the ball. So I am not really getting the fast counter attacking argument. In a league and against a team with so much great counter attacking sides...
 
Maldeika said:
The problem with pace is the high line - but actually Neuer is standing there, too.

The pace of the defenders? Boateng never had problems to deal with CR7 or Robben when he played against them. Martinez might have.

But - there is a statistics about goals for and against this season in Bundesliga in a 12-second-period after receiving the ball. And Bayern only had 2 goals against in the 12 seconds after which the opponent won the ball. So I am not really getting the fast counter attacking argument. In a league and against a team with so much great counter attacking sides...
No, the funniest part for me is that the only player they have with any real pace is Welbeck and between him lacking the football intelligence to make good runs and the scum lacking a midfielder who can pick out a decent long pass, they won't be able to use that properly. Martinez should be fine, he's a very intelligent footballer who doesn't let himself get stuck in situations where his pace can become a problem, it's when he comes up against a striker strong enough to match him physically that he has problems and that won't happen in this tie.
 
Chris in London said:
Is there any chance that Bayern and the rags can both lose?

I feel the same about Dortmund and Real...

Make it easier... Do you want this two to loose tonight or Shrek?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5NocdMrOo[/youtube]

That scene is hilarious. It is the question a real interviewer would not have asked because he would have been scared to get the player pissed - Götze just laughed it away...
 
Im looking forward to watchhing the rags get bummed into oblivion until there heads fall off and wee davey starts crying cum

Fuck them all the shit cunts
 
Maldeika said:
supercrystal7 said:
Lastly I completely disagree with you about Ronaldo. I remember seeing Messi make his debut and right from the first game it was apparent (except for injury or going wild) he would be the best player in the world. I actually saw Ronaldo when he was 17 too and was impressed, I thought he had world class potential, but never imagined he could become one of the all time greats. Through hard work, dedicated and the unyielding desire to be the best he has pushed himself into competing with Messi. He has his faults (which Messi has the exact same ones too), but he is model footballer and is an example to all young players.

It is not Ronaldo's abilities why I do not like him - it is this egoistic approach and all of the show making. For me football is about team and not about individuals. I prefer seeing 2 or 3 players going through the opposition playing passes with each other to any 1vs1s.

I want to see emotions - not 11 models that try to look best on the footballing pitch. And I just do not like his attics. When he stands there for his freekicks I would like to stand in front of him and kick his balls... I do not mind the players making advertisings and trying to get the most out of their career - but that starts off the pitch - not on.

Believe me - there is a lot players that work hard on their defiencies to be good in the match - it is not only Ronaldo...
I think you are selling Ronaldo short by a great deal. If he was as selfish and egotistical as you think all the time then he would not be the favourites of so many managers.

Accusing Ronaldo of not showing emotion is also wildly off base. He shows as much passion and determination to win as any footballer I have ever seen. The guy has played through so many injuries and given everything he has to win big games.

There are a lot of players that work hard, but few like Ronaldo. Ronaldo for me is in the same mold as Lampard, a player who through sheer will has surpassed their potential (if such a thing is possible).<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:23 pm --<br /><br />
aguero93:20 said:
Maldeika said:
The problem with pace is the high line - but actually Neuer is standing there, too.

The pace of the defenders? Boateng never had problems to deal with CR7 or Robben when he played against them. Martinez might have.

But - there is a statistics about goals for and against this season in Bundesliga in a 12-second-period after receiving the ball. And Bayern only had 2 goals against in the 12 seconds after which the opponent won the ball. So I am not really getting the fast counter attacking argument. In a league and against a team with so much great counter attacking sides...
No, the funniest part for me is that the only player they have with any real pace is Welbeck and between him lacking the football intelligence to make good runs and the scum lacking a midfielder who can pick out a decent long pass, they won't be able to use that properly. Martinez should be fine, he's a very intelligent footballer who doesn't let himself get stuck in situations where his pace can become a problem, it's when he comes up against a striker strong enough to match him physically that he has problems and that won't happen in this tie.
Have to disagree with what you said here. Welbeck actually does make good runs when he plays upfront, but he is just not that great a footballer and misses chances. His lack of ability is not due to lack of intelligence. He and Rooney link up very well, but Welbeck being average waste the opportunities he gets.

Also Lahm is still better than Rafinha attacking and is no slouch speed wise. I reckon before he switched to midfield Lahm might have been the best crosser of the ball in any top team. He is pretty much superior to Rafinha in every way.

Then I disagree on Martinez too. As a centre back he does not have the experience or the know how in dealing with balls over the top. He has been exposed in every game he has played there and I can only hope Bayern stick with Dante/Boateng.
 

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