Time to move the family stand

mrtwiceaseason said:
I would say he's wrong
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Is that based on club information?

If it’s not next season then I’m sure it will happen in the next few years.

Apparently a lot of people in the Family Stand these days aren’t actually eligible for it anymore but the club just keeps the tickets rolling off since the stand is so big for a family area that they might not be able to fill all the seats with more families if they were to move everyone on.
 
Currently on the ticket website.

Brentford at home.

Match day tickets currently priced at and remaining in 136.


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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Don’t really think safe standing will be the silver bullet on atmosphere no matter where you put it. If it’s being rolled out from January onwards it’s £42 in the South Stand safe standing section to watch Brentford in February.

We thought bringing standing back may bring some reduction in ticket prices and maybe bring back some of the blues who have been priced out of going. It appears from initial pricing it more than likely won’t and the club won’t have any variance in whether you are seated or standing on cost.
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Safe standing won’t be a panacea. If / when it’s introduced in North Stand Level 1, it needs to be part of the pans to expand the North Stand IMHO.

We’ve seen the Poznan go round parts of the ground that aren’t known for atmosphere in the last two home games. 13 goals is pretty exceptional but there’s clearly more people who want a good atmosphere than a few hundred in South Stand Level 1.

Match day ticket prices are excessive but if people really want to go to the games then they can use the Facebook pages and the BM ticket forum to get cheaper tickets. I’ve mentioned before on here how we share tickets around our SC Branch at a reduced rate or free, when the seat holders are away, I’ll of working shifts etc
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Safe standing won’t be a panacea. If / when it’s introduced in North Stand Level 1, it needs to be part of the pans to expand the North Stand IMHO.

We’ve seen the Poznan go round parts of the ground that aren’t known for atmosphere in the last two home games. 13 goals is pretty exceptional but there’s clearly more people who want a good atmosphere than a few hundred in South Stand Level 1.

Match day ticket prices are excessive but if people really want to go to the games then they can use the Facebook pages and the BM ticket forum to get cheaper tickets. I’ve mentioned before on here how we share tickets around our SC Branch at a reduced rate or free, when the seat holders are away, I’ll of working shifts etc
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It shouldn’t be up to blues buying tickets and then putting them on Facebook less than face value to help others to go, the club should be doing this. Safe standing won’t reduce ticket prices by looks of it, away fans are paying £30 for a seat whilst in the south stand you will be paying more than that to stand up.
 
jrb said:
Stop being silly Stu, whether you're being serious or not?

The club aren't going move the family stand, parents and kids, next to the away fans. Can YOU imagine the outcome. Leeds would have had a field day, not to mention United, Liverpool, etc.

And if the club did move the family stand to SSL1 on your advice, I and a probable majority currently in SSL1 would move to NSL1, where the family stand used to be. Straight swap.

Stop deluding yourself and being in denial that there isn't an issue after all these years of countless empty seats in the family stand. There is.

I'll be honest. I didn't go to the match yesterday. My sister is with me for Christmas. She has mental health issues and learning difficulties. I can't leave her on her own. I have a duty of care for her.

I watched the match. I can tell you now, there where nowhere near as many empty seats in SSL1 as there where in the family stand. Fact! There were blocks/rows of empty seats, varying in size and amounts, in the family stand, clearly visible.
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Not only have we got other fans banging on about empty seats now we have City fans. You had a valid reason for not attending yesterday, many others have the same.

The guy sat next to me lives in Bristol and makes a round trip for home games with his Son. He misses a few games, so what? When he can he transfers the tickets but most of his family are not dedicated enough to make the journey.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Where do those currently in NS L1 go to and will they have to pay more? There’s a real risk of losing more fans than you gain I would say.
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I think the moves would need to be part of the North Stand Expansion if / when it happens. Changing the North Stand shouldn’t be the biggest priority IMHO.

I think there are bigger priorities in the short to medium term like making more season cards available together by eg trying to group
seats that become available if fans don’t return after deferring. Possibly encouraging non singers in 114 / 115 to move to those freed up seats and replacing them with people who like to create an atmosphere.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
It shouldn’t be up to blues buying tickets and then putting them on Facebook less than face value to help others to go, the club should be doing this. Safe standing won’t reduce ticket prices by looks of it, away fans are paying £30 for a seat whilst in the south stand you will be paying more than that to stand up.
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Blues aren’t buying tickets to sell at lower prices on Facebook pages. They are often selling tickets at 1/19th of the season card price for games they can’t make rather than the excessive individual match day ticket prices.

The Club could learn more from the Facebook pages than ticket prices but some fans would cry about a few away tickets being resold.

I would like to see cheaper ticket prices but away tickets are cheaper because the decision makers have had to factor in travel expenses for away fans into price limits.
 
I understand the clubs desire for a more family orientated stand to try and encourage the next generation but I think they used a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

i have been in the North Stand since moving from Maine Road as I took my mates 2 kids when he decided to stop going but they are now 27 and 23 and both SC holders in their own right so the concept worked for them

To suggest the stand is full of kids kicking seats is completely false and to suggest that the rest of the ground is full is also wrong you want to see the ground from NS1 there are seats empty everywhere but is understandable in these Covid times and should not be used as a stick to beat others with

i think the issue is I don’t know what is and isn’t allowed I have been told by stewards on a couple of occasions not to swear I mean I know it’s not clever but hey there are times when only swearing will do.

i would say I would rather be near a group of kids rather than coked up aggressive « hardcore » fans that I have encountered

i think the club just need to re designate as a stand take the word « family »away and if parents wish to move because of loud singing or swearing etc then they can I am sure find quieter seats but don’t think the kids won’t hear the swear words
 
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cookster said:
Not only have we got other fans banging on about empty seats now we have City fans. You had a valid reason for not attending yesterday, many others have the same.

The guy sat next to me lives in Bristol and makes a round trip for home games with his Son. He misses a few games, so what? When he can he transfers the tickets but most of his family are not dedicated enough to make the journey.
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Thanks.

I know it's possible, but with the introduction of digital tickets on your mobile, and the farce that is the ticket office, people have stopped passing their unused season tickets on to family and friends. Previously you just gave them your season ticket card and said don't lose it.

What we also have to take into conseideration about yesterdays crowd was the new sporting/football Covid restrictions. There are plenty of match going City fans who either aren't fully jabbed or don't have the ID to get into the ground. If the parents can't go, the kids can't go either.
 
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Scottyboi said:
Disband the whole idea of a family stand, pure shite.
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It isn’t needed in the 2020s. The idea of a family stand was needed up until the 1990s, but not anymore.

All that needs to happen is child tickets are priced well (not £30 for match day tickets!) and they can be spread around the stadium, like so many kids already are. Going to the game is like going to a kid’s theme park, the whole matchday experience is aimed at children and fanboys (as is the whole culture around football, full stop, these days), and every stand bar SSL1 is like a family stand so it’s not like the North Stand is required to be one.

That end of the ground is needed for the atmosphere in our stadium now. Simple as that. We need to move away from the away fans, we need a much much bigger area than we have now, ideally that would be along the side of the pitch like the Kippax was but that’ll never happen so it has to be the North Stand.

Apologies to anyone who doesn’t like that idea, but we need that end of the ground now.
 
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MadchesterCity said:
The solution is easy right, extend the North Stand

Safe standing level 1
Family Level 2
Cheap Seating Level 3
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Correct.

But the club will argue they've just reduced capacity and we still aren't filling the ground.

And the club will definitley argue Level 2 are premium seats with another new corporate area on level 2 of any future expanded North stand.

As I posted yesterday, keep the kids in NSL1 and relocate them to the two corner blocks of NSL1?
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
It isn’t needed in the 2020s. The idea of a family stand was needed up until the 1990s, but not anymore.

All that needs to happen is child tickets are priced well (not £30 for match day tickets!) and they can be spread around the stadium, like so many kids already are.

That end of the ground is needed for the atmosphere in our stadium now. Simple as that. We need to move away from the away fans, we need a much much bigger area than we have now, ideally that would be along the side of the pitch like the Kippax was but that’ll never happen so it had to be the North Stand.
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The South Stand does not sing in most games.

The bigger problem is that City price out fans who make noise.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It isn’t needed in the 2020s. The idea of a family stand was needed up until the 1990s, but not anymore.

All that needs to happen is child tickets are priced well (not £30 for match day tickets!) and they can be spread around the stadium, like so many kids already are. Going to the game is like going to a kid’s theme park, the whole matchday experience is aimed at children and fanboys (as is the whole culture around football, full stop, these days), and every stand bar SSL1 is like a family stand so it’s not like the North Stand is required to be one.

That end of the ground is needed for the atmosphere in our stadium now. Simple as that. We need to move away from the away fans, we need a much much bigger area than we have now, ideally that would be along the side of the pitch like the Kippax was but that’ll never happen so it had to be the North Stand.

Apologies to anyone who doesn’t like that idea, but we need that end of the ground now.
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Marvin said:
The South Stand does not sing in most games.

The bigger problem is that City price out fans who make noise.
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That’s also very true, but there are lots of people around the stadium who don’t sit in SSL1 who always join in with every song who would move to a proper singing end if we had one.

But pricing it better would also entice back the better fans for atmosphere.
 
Marvin said:
The South Stand does not sing in most games.

The bigger problem is that City price out fans who make noise.
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Oh come on Marvin, yes it does.(sigh)

Where do you think the overwhelming majority of the songs start in the ground?

Not all of the fans in SSL1 sing during most home games.
 
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