I’ll bet that dad that shot his ex and her boyfriend before turning the gun on himself was also into “law and order” seeing as he legally held and carried a firearm. The issue was that he temporarily had a breakdown and lost his temper.
That’s why it’s so fucking stupid to have concealed carry laws where everyone is armed. Humans have not evolved over the past 2m years with the necessary emotional responses to deal with emotional trauma allied to the ability to kill others with the press of an index finger.
If I get in a slanging match with an ex and her new squeeze, we call each other cûnts, someone takes a swing at the other and 99/100 it ends without serious injury with people jumping in and telling us to grow up (although there’s the 1/1000 where one punch kills which is always worth remembering).
What you’re saying is because of an amendment (how many amendments have there been by the way?) That happened two centuries ago, the rest of the world shouldn’t look at America and shake its head because you guys are special and you don’t like it when others do comment from a vantage of moral superiority. And yeah, I do often think “look at those dumb fucks”, especially when seeing the queues to Trump rallies, just as you do.
I see you have devolved into hyperbole and nonsense, so let me end this “interaction” (for my own part) with a response, then you can go back to screaming into the abyss for fun and saying outlandish nonsense to your hearts content!
Citing one person who loses his rag and shoots someone as some exemplar, or even indicative, of anyone’s stance on “law and order,” let alone mine (trained, certified marksman, no criminal record, no arrest record, etc) is not only ridiculous, but you have no way of knowing his position or my own. So, it’s hyperbolic nonsense.
Being a gun owner runs the gamut, much like being a car owner. Do you clean it, keep it well serviced, is it a Bentley or a beater, etc, etc, etc… In America, owning a gun is commonplace in many areas, and has been for centuries. For instance, you’d be crazy to live in a place where there are animals that will kill you while you’re out for a walk without carrying a weapon. A gun is the best kind of weapon for stopping a threat at distance. Ergo, people there own guns. That’s a huge swath of the USA! Not the urban areas, where it’s gangbangers doing the shooting, but the other 90% of the country where population density is minimal.
You state, unequivocally:
That’s why it’s so fucking stupid to have concealed carry laws where everyone is armed.
More hyperbolic bullshit!
Far from “everyone is armed,” it is a small minority in a populous country.
- The exact number of U.S. gun owners is unclear due to the fact that there is no federal registration requirement or similar regulation that would enable an official count. In fact, federal law
prohibits a central registry of firearms owned by private citizens.
About 40% of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun, and
22% of individuals (about 72 million people) report owning a gun, according to surveys from
Pew and
Harvard and Northeastern.
That’s ONE FIFTH, and I’d wager 90% of them don’t concealed carry on a regular basis, probably more!
The fact that only 0.5% of the American population is about 1.7M people is one of the problems with discussing “America” as some monolithic culture, because it is far from it, but that number of people can cause mayhem for the rest of the population!
Humans have not evolved over the past 2m years with the necessary emotional responses to deal with emotional trauma allied to the ability to kill others with the press of an index finger.
“Paging Dr SWP’s Back! Paging Dr SWP’s Back!”
More hyperbolic bullshit with ZERO evidence and a myopic lens focused on the worst of the worst. In words you might understand…Excellent analytical skills!
If I get in a slanging match with an ex and her new squeeze, we call each other cûnts, someone takes a swing at the other and 99/100 it ends without serious injury with people jumping in and telling us to grow up
Have you been binging Spaghetti westerns, or maybe watching Tombstone on a loop?!
The exact same thing happens in the USA! You on,y even know about this one because IT IS SO RARE AND OUTRAGEOUS! However, it now becomes a clarion cry for the uninformed with an agenda!
And yeah, I do often think “look at those dumb fucks”, especially when seeing the queues to Trump rallies, just as you do.
Conflation of education and political ideology with the gun debate is pathetically beneath you, but if it helps with your ability to throw around “dumb fucks” and “America” together, you go, girl!
The gun debate is a ready source of “look at those stupid fucks,” but in a nation of laws and republican democracy, simply throwing out a bedrock principal of organization based in the moralistic stance of modern snowflakes is never going to happen. Indeed, millions of Americans said that if, after Sandy Hook, we couldn’t get better gun control laws, then it’s never going to happen. I’m not as resigned to that position as some, but I do understand both the political and generational hurdles associated with that effort. To not do so is ignorant, which is where most outsiders reside.
Now, I’m not painting everyone with that brush, but failing to understand the American system of law, governance, and the Amendment process makes it impossible to discuss 2A with anyone. In the current climate of extreme division, even discussing amending 2A is farcical.
Until there is a political will to dismantle this bedrock American principle, it is simply noise to constantly whine about murders thousands miles away. They’re going to happen, regardless of your beliefs or mine. Against that backdrop, I will continue to be one of those 22%, and I will do so within the confines of the law, with safety uppermost in my mind. I’m sorry if that offends the sensibilities of those outside the US, but then I think it’s stupid to go out and get bladdered every weekend, or take drugs, so I guess I‘m probably only in another 22% minority there, too!
While enjoy discussing the topic, much like the fax debate and the numpty who mentioned Nuremberg in the same breath as Doctors and Nurses, if you are not surgical (see what I did there?!) in both your language and intent, then people quickly run to their corners and start fighting them. I have no wish to engage in that or, if it seems like I already am, continuing to do so.
Heres to a good season and many more pleasant topics to discuss along the way.
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