Today's shooting in America thread

Slipper One said:
While I can see where you are coming from, I believe the effort should be in restricting and controlling and not in banning completely.

As I mentioned, it works fine elsewhere when it is implemented properly and with authority. I don't personally know of anybody who resents the licensing (just for GDM) procedure required to own an unrestricted firearm, much like they don't when taking a driving test to drive a car.
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How does this happen when the 2A says what it says, the product lobby wants ease and expansion, not restrictions and control, and the very elected representatives who are supposed to be listening to constituents are offering up Xmas cards with their entire families holding long rifles?

You’re right, and by the way, add huge taxes, add heftier penalties for improper storage, add whatever. It would all help. But it isn’t happening, is it? It isn’t because such legislation can’t be passed today, tomorrow, nor ever, because guns are a Pandora’s box and every attempt to curtail is viewed even by most responsible gunowners as a “slippery slope.” There is no compromise. Period.

My way has nothing to do with laws, freedom, elections, lobbies nor politics. It’s simply non-violent resistance. It’s a buyers’ strike. Boycotting. By consumers.

I’m already in. Gunowners, how about you? If you can’t, why not? If you won’t, why not?
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
How does this happen when the 2A says what it says, the product lobby wants ease and expansion, not restrictions and control, and the very elected representatives who are supposed to be listening to constituents are offering up Xmas cards with their entire families holding long rifles?

You’re right, and by the way, add huge taxes, add heftier penalties for improper storage, add whatever. It would all help. But it isn’t happening, is it? It isn’t because such legislation can’t be passed today, tomorrow, nor ever, because guns are a Pandora’s box and every attempt to curtail is viewed even by most responsible gunowners as a “slippery slope.” There is no compromise. Period.

My way has nothing to do with laws, freedom, elections, lobbies nor politics. It’s simply non-violent resistance. It’s a buyers’ strike. Boycotting. By consumers.

I’m already in. Gunowners, how about you? If you can’t, why not? If you won’t, why not?
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Well, I enjoy my guns and I find my Beretta O/U a thing of beauty.

I also enjoy my garden and growing things, especially my vegetables, I find it very rewarding and satisfying.

However, I don't enjoy my efforts being destroyed by squirrels, so my shotgun deals with any that happen to stray onto the estate. We also have too many crows, so I'll pop some off to squawk to their hearts content in Crow Heaven. I've come to tolerate the very few rabbits I have around, but again, if they keep up their end of the bargain and don't damage my veggies, then I'll not put them in my sights. The moment they do, they are done!! I have a skunk mooching around the place and he doesn't cause me any problems, although he'll make a huge mess of my lawn in the spring digging up grubs. I can tolerate that as a trade off, it will repair.

We're presently in lambing season and coyotes are a viscous killer, a sheep or lamb hasn't a chance against them. The Maremma do a wonderful job guarding the flock, but if the coyote pack has real designs on mutton, then they are hard pressed to stop an attack.

There's no issue at the moment and eliminating the pack would only bring in new animals to take up the territory and it's perhaps better the devil you know, than the devil you don't.

They are certainly there and very aware of the sheep and unfortunately some poor defenceless animal will have to suffer an awful death first, because it's probably only a matter of time. A rifle will do an admirable job on a coyote.

I also enjoy target shooting out into the field up to 220 yards with the .22, just to keep my eye in.

Personally, I have no interest in shooting deer, moose, bear or turkeys etc, although I do acknowledge that it is important to keep control on the numbers and government wildlife management ensures this using a tag method for hunters.



No humans were harmed in the writing of this.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Possibly but I'm sure our frothy friend has a history of making transphobic posts.

What the fuck does it matter?

I'm not sure gender critical views do anything to help stop the situation from happening again.

The trans status of the shooter Is either a complete irrelevance or the close minded society and educational background may have triggered the mental issues that put them in a place where they sought out this perverted revenge.
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I have no idea who the poster is I just respond to content. I believe these gender issues are a mental issue. If the path we are on will help that I'm not convinced at all.
 
domalino said:
No offence Tolmie but you're missing the wood for the trees.

AR15s have been responsible for all of the worst mass shootings in American history. It's a proven fact that while they didn't stop entirely, the frequency and number of casualties in mass shootings dropped massively under the assault rifle ban of the 90's.

They have been banned before and they can be banned again.


No one is getting rid of all guns in America, and plenty of countries that allow people to have guns don't have the mass shooting problems of the US so there's no point talking about getting rid of all guns.
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No offence taken.

My issue is guns, full stop.

I'd imagine if we also added up all the deaths from guns in America over the course of a year, the majority would be handguns from robberies, police shootouts and gang related?

My argument is that these pricks wanting to shoot up kids in schools will do it regardless of their weapon of choice.

A mass shooting in America is defined by a lower number than most would expect?

One too many for me when it comes to innocent kids.

If some people want to ban AR15s, others will just buy the next best option.

If Congress were somehow able to implement such a ban, I still fail to see how they enforce it to round up all the AR15s in circulation.

A brilliant country, some brilliant people, but still a baby and many making infantile choices.
 
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