Today's shooting in America thread

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

If pretty much every house in the US has a gun, maybe (I know this is not at all realistic) they should simply stop making and selling guns for the public. It doesn't make anything better but it's a step in the direction without impacting the second amendment rights.

Also .... let them eat cake.

1.2 guns for ever single person in the USA.

Start with regulating the shooters/gun owners. No licence, no gun. A basic level of competency/sanity should be proven before you are legally allowed anywhere near firearms/ammunition.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The whites have their guns because of the scary African American?

And the African American have their guns because of the scary white man?

Read that somewhere today.

 

[Blue and true]

As I've said before, (if you'd care to read and understand), we have a large gun ownership with strong gun control, yet we don't go around killing school children.

The vast majority of gun related deaths in this country are from gang violence and no amount of laws and regulations will change that. Purchasing hand guns has now been banned, but it won't reduce gun deaths, because there is a constant stream of guns smuggled across the border. Banning hand guns for the regular Joe is not the answer, investment in combatting the porous border is.


The question is, why is it so prevalent in the US and not throughout the world where there is also gun ownership?

You keep making this point that gun ownership is available throughout the world, but it simply isn't. The majority of developed, progressive first world countries do not have firearms available for the citizenry as readily as America. Perchance you could point me to a country with the same ease of access to firearms as the US?

Also, gang related shootings: you live over there so I'll trust your acquired knowledge on this, but even if your point is true, it doesn't change the fact that hundreds upon hundreds of children are killed every year by guns, does it? And not one of these school shootings is gang related; again, maybe you could correct me on this. I argue firearms should only be available to military and other forces, but even watertight regulations would be a start. Wouldn't that also make it harder for these criminal gangs to acquire the guns? The criminals access them precisely because the gun restrictions are non-existent.

Someone made a great point on here; a person is only mentally stable until the day they aren't. A law-abiding, model US citizen could have a week from hell, flick the mental switch, decide he wants to play with his firearm stockpile, and walk into the nearest school. If you don't see how horrifying and how flawed these laws are, then there is something fundamentally defective about you as a human being, in my opinion.

Hypothetical time: what would your opinion be if one of your loved ones became just another cruel American statistic?

 

[Blue and true]

The whites have their guns because of the scary African American?

And the African American have their guns because of the scary white man?

Read that somewhere today.

The whites have their guns because of the scary African American?

And the African American have their guns because of the scary white man?

Read that somewhere today.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

This is what all you smart (non-Americans) are up against when you hope that sentient Americans will rise up against the massively funded, well organized, politicians in their pockets, gun lobby, and hope it is going to give up the gravy…



Yes, they have the same number of votes as I do!

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This is what all you smart (non-Americans) are up against when you hope that sentient Americans will rise up against the massively funded, well organized, politicians in their pockets, gun lobby is going to give up the gravy…



Yes, they have the same number of votes as I do!

I'm aware of the scale of the problem, but (and I hate using the word 'journey') every journey begins with a single step.

If nobody is willing to take that first step then you might as well just make it a free-for-all (which it pretty much is anyway), and take your chances that you, or any other member of your family won't catch a bullet today, or tomorrow, or next week, or the week after...

 

[Slipper One]

And where do the gang members get guns, a lot are stolen from legal owners. Or dropped off in Compton by the government.

Such a naïve statement.

A lot are NOT stolen from legal owners.............they are smuggled across the border from the US. Of course there will always be thefts from legal owners and stores, but nothing anywhere near like you are stating.

 

[Slipper One]

1.2 guns for ever single person in the USA.

Start with regulating the shooters/gun owners. No licence, no gun. A basic level of competency/sanity should be proven before you are legally allowed anywhere near firearms/ammunition.

It works everywhere else in the world.

 

[big gaz]

The whites have their guns because of the scary African American?

And the African American have their guns because of the scary white man?

Read that somewhere today.

You read some clever shit tolmie's ;-)

 

[Slipper One]

You keep making this point that gun ownership is available throughout the world, but it simply isn't. The majority of developed, progressive first world countries do not have firearms available for the citizenry as readily as America. Perchance you could point me to a country with the same ease of access to firearms as the US?

Are you telling me that nobody outside or the military or police in the UK, France, Germany, Australia, Canada etc do not have firearms?

Of course they do, but the difference between these countries and the US is they are well regulated and controlled.

I've never implied that any of these countries have the same access to firearms as the US..........you've put that in your own head because it suits your argument.