Toni Kroos

World class player, but not the type of midfielder we need.

I've got to completely disagree, I think he's exactly the kind of player we need.

We've tried tough tacklers at defensive midfield who aren't good enough on the ball - DeJong, Javi Garcia and Fernando. And they've all been forced out of the team by players who aren't as good in the tackle, but are much better on the ball - Barry, Fernandinho and Yaya.

We need someone for that deep lying role to doctate play from deep, find a brilliant forward pass under pressure. There's no one in the world better than Kroos at that.
 
I've got to completely disagree, I think he's exactly the kind of player we need.

We've tried tough tacklers at defensive midfield who aren't good enough on the ball - DeJong, Javi Garcia and Fernando. And they've all been forced out of the team by players who aren't as good in the tackle, but are much better on the ball - Barry, Fernandinho and Yaya.

We need someone for that deep lying role to doctate play from deep, find a brilliant forward pass under pressure. There's no one in the world better than Kroos at that.

We can't neglect our defence, Kroos can't play in the holding role. He's about as good as yaya is when defending.
 
Read Peps 1st book and you will see why he would want this player....knows how Pep works won't need constant coaching will just come in and hit the ground running...if we can get him that is

He's a central midfielder, not a pivot or defensive midfielder. Yes he's world class, but we've also got de bruyne and silva that are. We've got new silva and gundogan for centre mid too.
 
I've got to completely disagree, I think he's exactly the kind of player we need.

We've tried tough tacklers at defensive midfield who aren't good enough on the ball - DeJong, Javi Garcia and Fernando. And they've all been forced out of the team by players who aren't as good in the tackle, but are much better on the ball - Barry, Fernandinho and Yaya.

We need someone for that deep lying role to doctate play from deep, find a brilliant forward pass under pressure. There's no one in the world better than Kroos at that.

Kroos doesn't really play that deep lying role though, he'd be competing more with Silva. For Madrid Casemiro sits deep and even when he played under Pep at Bayern he used Lahm as his defensive midfielder.
 
I thought he toyed with the idea last year and then signed a new contract at Madrid.
Great player and would fit in with Peps player requisites (doesn't give the ball away needlessly)
Cant see him leaving Madrid imo why would he want to?
Shite press talk if you ask me.
 
If pep wants him to play the pivet he will play the pivet!!!!! Still think its a real long shot unless Madrid are trying to fund a really daft offer for mbappe!!!
 
They'll be linking us with a player we're not after so that they can claim we were SNUBBED in the yellow ticker further down the line.
 
I've got to completely disagree, I think he's exactly the kind of player we need.

We've tried tough tacklers at defensive midfield who aren't good enough on the ball - DeJong, Javi Garcia and Fernando. And they've all been forced out of the team by players who aren't as good in the tackle, but are much better on the ball - Barry, Fernandinho and Yaya.

We need someone for that deep lying role to doctate play from deep, find a brilliant forward pass under pressure. There's no one in the world better than Kroos at that.

Spot on. Bizzare that people scream out for a tough tackling destroyer. We were a miles better side with Barry sitting deep than we ever were with DeJong flying into tackles and getting himself horribly out of position. Barry was great at closing down passing lanes and keeping things ticking over with intelligent passes. He was also fantastic at drawing fouls to break up play.
 
That's why I don't believe the links to him. If we didn't sign Bernardo then I would see a reason to get kroos.

Doesn't play anything like Bernardo. Or indeed de Bruyne, who loses possession a lot because he has such attacking instincts. Plays deeper than David Silva too.

In my book he is a replacement for Yaya. Less muscular obviously but he can hold onto the ball and pass it like the big man.
 
Doesn't play anything like Bernardo. Or indeed de Bruyne, who loses possession a lot because he has such attacking instincts. Plays deeper than David Silva too.

In my book he is a replacement for Yaya. Less muscular obviously but he can hold onto the ball and pass it like the big man.

So your saying kroos would play in the pivot role then?
 
Give over... We're not signing Kroos. We have a better chance of signing Messi on a free. I can think of no more difficult transfer to pull off.
 
Towards the end of the season we were playing Yaya there so yes I can see Kroos in that position.

Yeah because it was either yaya or fernando, we had no other player that could keep the ball like yaya does. Fernandinho was poor in the second half of the season so he wasn't an option. I can understand everyone saying we don't need a de Jong type midfielder, I'm not saying that we should have a destroyer. We need someone who can pass the ball and that is also good at winning back the ball. Kroos isn't a defensive midfielder or pivot, so we don't need him. We're more than covered in central midfield. Kimmich is the ideal player.
 
I'll assume by the way he is being described that people don't understand how he plays at Madrid.
 
What people are saying is he could play the pivot role no problem
I'm mad about Kroos, I think he is an absolute baller of a player but to see him as our deepest midfielder is not somewhere I'd ever like to see him. I wouldn't fancy him dropping in to cover a defender who'd broken further upfield nor would I like to see him responsible for fighting fires at the back, it'd be such a waste.

I'm certainly not saying I wouldn't want him or that he'd be bad for us just that I would only ever want to see him further ahead of a DM so he could be truly effective.
 
Toni Kroos is fantastic player, perhaps the best midfielder in the world. BUT we need a destroyer in midfield believe or not. Madrid have Casemiro which allows Modric and Kroos play a natural attacking role from the deeper position.
 

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