Towns & Cities that are F----d.

I wasn't specifically talking about the UK. More generally the western world.
I'm sure people in the UK are polite and respectful but you can't deny that knife crime, gangs and drugs crime is massive issue in the UK ? Will the police send a car out if you're mugged in Piccadilly gardens or Misery Square in Stockport or your house is robbed ?

Police recorded more than 44,000 offences involving a knife or sharp instrument in the 12 months to June, up 7 per cent on the previous year.

Every country has these same growing issues. Cities throughout the west imo are becoming more dangerous after dark than they ever were and police have less and less resources. Look at what's just gone on in Paris, complete lawlessness.
I think we need some context with regard to violent crime in the UK. Reading an article in a newspaper is one thing, looking at official statistics brings up a more accurate guide to what's happening.

The Police recorded 45,639 knife offences in the 12 months ended September 2022, with 68% of that number being for possession of a knife. The total figure was an increase of 21% over the previous year, but the previous year recorded lower than normal figures due to the lockdown.

Other offences included in the figures are possession of a sharp object and threatening to use a knife or sharp object.

Those figures are for possession of knives, sharp objects, and threatening to use a knife or sharp object, not actual assaults.

The NHS treated 4,171 people in hospital due to assault by a knife or sharp object in the 12 months ended September 2022, an increase of 2% over the previous year, but lower than 2019, when figures for hospital admissions peaked.

Of the 696 people murdered in the UK in 2022, 261 were killed by a knife or sharp object, and knives or sharp objects have always been the most common weapons for murder in the UK, followed by being hit with a blunt instrument.

In global rankings, the UK sits in 66th place for violent crime, which includes all assaults, not just knife crime, and sits in 174th place out of 220 countries for murder, at 1.2 unlawful deaths per 100,000 people, which is less than the EU average.

To put this into some sort of context, 1,695 people were killed on the roads in 2022, with 28,100 people seriously injured.

A person in the UK is at more risk of being run over than being stabbed or murdered. I agree there is a blight of lawlessness among primarily young people involved with gangs, drugs and turf wars, and I haven't checked the figures, but I would suspect a large percentage of stabbings in the UK are confined to those engaged in those activities.

The Independent article did briefly mention the reduction of youth intervention programmes in the UK. Those programmes were axed by the Government as part of their austerity drive. The criticism that decision received at the time about the impact it would have on the lives of vulnerable youngsters growing up in poor, inner city areas was well founded. They had been very successful in steering many of those youngsters away from gangs and drugs, and it's no surprise such a short sighted decision would result in those young people now living such dangerous and chaotic lives.

My own view is we have failed them. They have effectively been abandoned to their fate, and however much money the government thought they were saving by cutting those programmes, the costs to society in general, and those young lives in particular, are far greater.

The same could be said about the reduction in the number of serving police officers, another short sighted action under the guise of austerity.

Violence happens in the UK, of course it does, but for most people living here, it is rarely encountered. I'm 66, and the number of fights I have seen when out and about can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

I'm struggling to think of more than 5 incidents I have witnessed over the years, none of them involved a weapon, and I was probably out every night of the week for decades between my teens and mid 40's, twice a week or so since, including many a night in Manchester city centre.

When I meet my friends, neighbours, or other people I know, the subject of personal safety is not a topic of conversation, and I think that is an accurate guide to the level of threat we feel.

I can't speak for everyone, and I don't know what it is like living in a poor inner city area, but the majority of the population don't live in those areas and probably live lives as uneventful as mine has been over years.
 
Even the name is absolute shite

Sop makes you think of “sopping wet”, “milk sop”, etc. And who wants to live in a place that's only got work to recommend it?
(Probably that's a lie — I always think of it as one of these places with structural unemployment, from grandfather passed to son and then grandson, and grandmother through daughter to granddaughter).
Re. Corby. I was once at a rock festival where a group of lads in the crowd started chanting “We come from Corby Town, so take your knickers down” and kept it up for quite a while.
Jeez! that just says it all, eh?
 
I love Manchester but it’s a right shithole at the moment. For every nice new building that goes up, there’s a shit area that seems to get worse.

It’s the litter, graffiti, chewing gum on the floor as well as those weird pavement stains capital of Britain.
I take it you've never been to Dundee. There's more chewing gum than paving visible in the city centre. Never seen anything like it.
 
I once passed through " Wankie " in Zimbabwe on my way from Harare to Victoria Falls.
They've changed the name of the town to Harange now mind,which i think is a bit wank tbh !
Hwange. They changed a lot of place names after independence. Salisbury/Harare, Gwelo/Gweru, Marandellas/Marondera, Umtali/Mutare, Que Que/Kwekwe, etc. The only significant place that retained its original name is Bulawayo which is an African name anyway (meaning Slaughter House).
 

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