Trouble in the East Stand??

[Longsight-memories]

Manchester City launch probe into stewards' fracas with 60-year-old fan at Etihad stadium


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Maybe this will calm a few people down!! Let's get back to supporting the players on the pitch and not making a spectacle of ourselves for the world press and our own anti City press to latch onto. MHO

Thankfully should calm things down.
This is good news as well, Showsec released a statement yesterday saying that they were acting in response to the club’s wishes, but that statement had been removed from their Twitter page last night.

http://twitter.com/#!/ShowsecUK

just posted its still up..

 

[bringer678]

Manchester City launch probe into stewards' fracas with 60-year-old fan at Etihad stadium


<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1462090_manchester-city-launch-probe-into-stewards-fracas-with-60-year-old-fan-at-etihad-stadium" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... ad-stadium</a>

Maybe this will calm a few people down!! Let's get back to supporting the players on the pitch and not making a spectacle of ourselves for the world press and our own anti City press to latch onto. MHO

Taken from the link

Showsec released a statement yesterday saying that they were acting in response to the club’s wishes, but that statement had been removed from their Twitter page last night.

Still doesn't explain why City put out that shite statement to the MEN yesterday, nor does it explain why the man was arrested for a breach of the peace when alot of witnesses have said the man didn't swear.

Until we get answers and assurances from City that this kind of thing wont happen again then i think we have the right to defend ourselves and fellow fans against what i can only call a group of thugs.

He was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace then de-arrested. If you watch the video, its all kicking off and is centred around the man. The police removing the man was no doubt an attempt to calm things down. The police hardly had time to take statements from all the witnesses before the arrest did they?

People said they were being pushed around and kicked by plod

De-arrested means he was innocent

 

[Eccles Blue]

i am one of the many who as been given the showsec treatment,i am a st holder in section 109 at the back but for the birmingham game i took my 12 year old grandson and his 12 year old friend i bought 3 tickets on row 3 his mother and grandmother were sat in our seats at the rear the weather on the night was bad it had been raining most of the day so all the seats were wet as we arrived at our seats showsec stewards were telling some young men about 16 years of age to sit down the lads said all the seats are wet they were not being rude in any way but the showsec steward just told them to sit down wich they did,there were other people stoodin front and at both sides of us but they then told me to sit down and i refused this went on for 5mins or so another steward came over to back up his mate i tried to explaine i am 53 i am registerd disabled and not prepared to sit in the rain soaked seat for 2 hours i said get me a towel so i can wipe my seat and then i will sit down he said "it`s not my job" at this point i went to the toilets to calm down but on leaving the toilets i was met by 8 stewards and ejected i did not argue just left,i had to phone my wife in the stadium to go and get my grandson and his friend who by now had got wet pants because the showsec stewards had made them sit down,i have emailed the club 4 times not one reply and sent 3 letters 2 of them to peter flecther guess what no reply, we spend millions on players and like to show the world that we are the club from manchester for the real football fan but really are we? come on city lets get back to basics!! we may have a rich owner but he can walk away at any time and the club will still be here but without our loyal fans the club will die!!!!

You really expected showsec to get you towels to wipe your seats?

lol thought the same.

I sit on the front row of the CB Lower and, if it is raining when I arrive at the stadium, I go into the ladies and get some paper towels to dry my seat off before I sit down. If I forget then I just sit down........... blimey I was at the NEWGEN game last night, you should have seen the rain and felt the wind then!! No paper towels there!!



p.s. I do say to our lovely steward why hasn't he dried the seat before I get there, but we do have a lot of light hearted banter with him. He is one of the 99% of our great stewards. :-)

 

[SWP's back]

Taken from the link



Still doesn't explain why City put out that shite statement to the MEN yesterday, nor does it explain why the man was arrested for a breach of the peace when alot of witnesses have said the man didn't swear.

Until we get answers and assurances from City that this kind of thing wont happen again then i think we have the right to defend ourselves and fellow fans against what i can only call a group of thugs.

He was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace then de-arrested. If you watch the video, its all kicking off and is centred around the man. The police removing the man was no doubt an attempt to calm things down. The police hardly had time to take statements from all the witnesses before the arrest did they?

Or maybe an explanaition as to why the Showsec stewards lied about this man comitting a breach of the peace?

I would not doubt for one minute that showsec may have lied mate.

I'm simply saying that the police did what they did "for the best intentions".<br /><br />-- Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:15 am --<br /><br />

Taken from the link



Still doesn't explain why City put out that shite statement to the MEN yesterday, nor does it explain why the man was arrested for a breach of the peace when alot of witnesses have said the man didn't swear.

Until we get answers and assurances from City that this kind of thing wont happen again then i think we have the right to defend ourselves and fellow fans against what i can only call a group of thugs.

He was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace then de-arrested. If you watch the video, its all kicking off and is centred around the man. The police removing the man was no doubt an attempt to calm things down. The police hardly had time to take statements from all the witnesses before the arrest did they?

People said they were being pushed around and kicked by plod

De-arrested means he was innocent

De-arrested means there was no evidence to continue the arrest or caution him. Not quite the same thing.

As for police barging people around, you've seen the video. There was a lot of barging going on everywhere. You don't think the police removing the man calmed things down at all?

Come on lads. As I've said before, I want rid of showsec, want rid of Fletcher, think 109 should be allowed to be standing and everything but the myopia prevailing on this thread is ludicrous and if anything, weakens your argument.

As for the bloke requesting a towel before he sat down, if that's the best "his side of the argument" that he could come up with, then I'm sure the truth may paint him in a worse light. If he was not allowed to collect his minors, that's terrible but there has been so much one sided-ness spewing from many on here that I find myself questioning that part of the story. If he was their guardian then he would have been able to tell any dibble about and be escorted back to collect them.

 

[bringer678]

He was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace then de-arrested. If you watch the video, its all kicking off and is centred around the man. The police removing the man was no doubt an attempt to calm things down. The police hardly had time to take statements from all the witnesses before the arrest did they?

Or maybe an explanaition as to why the Showsec stewards lied about this man comitting a breach of the peace?

I would not doubt for one minute that showsec may have lied mate.

I'm simply saying that the police did what they did "for the best intentions".

-- Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:15 am --

He was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace then de-arrested. If you watch the video, its all kicking off and is centred around the man. The police removing the man was no doubt an attempt to calm things down. The police hardly had time to take statements from all the witnesses before the arrest did they?

People said they were being pushed around and kicked by plod

De-arrested means he was innocent

De-arrested means there was no evidence to continue the arrest or caution him. Not quite the same thing.

As for police barging people around, you've seen the video. There was a lot of barging going on everywhere. You don't think the police removing the man calmed things down at all?

Come on lads. As I've said before, I want rid of showsec, want rid of Fletcher, think 109 should be allowed to be standing and everything but the myopia prevailing on this thread is ludicrous and if anything, weakens your argument.

As for the bloke requesting a towel before he sat down, if that's the best "his side of the argument" that he could come up with, then I'm sure the truth may paint him in a worse light. If he was not allowed to collect his minors, that's terrible but there has been so much one sided-ness spewing from many on here that I find myself questioning that part of the story. If he was their guardian then he would have been able to tell any dibble about and be escorted back to collect them.

If you've read most of the thread like me you will see somebodys bruises, doesn't look like an accidental barge.

 

[cibaman]

Excuse my ignorance but what is the significance, if any, of this happening in Block 109? From where I sit its not a particularly visible part of the ground so I dont know what the make up of the crowd is in there.

Is it customarily all standing, or are there significant numbers that want to sit? The pics give the impression that its all standing but the club said that the stewards were callled following complaints. Why would people complain, or are the club not telling the truth?

 

[Prodigal Son]

De-arrested means there was no evidence to continue the arrest or caution him. Not quite the same thing.

As for police barging people around, you've seen the video. There was a lot of barging going on everywhere. You don't think the police removing the man calmed things down at all?

Come on lads. As I've said before, I want rid of showsec, want rid of Fletcher, think 109 should be allowed to be standing and everything but the myopia prevailing on this thread is ludicrous and if anything, weakens your argument.

As for the bloke requesting a towel before he sat down, if that's the best "his side of the argument" that he could come up with, then I'm sure the truth may paint him in a worse light. If he was not allowed to collect his minors, that's terrible but there has been so much one sided-ness spewing from many on here that I find myself questioning that part of the story. If he was their guardian then he would have been able to tell any dibble about and be escorted back to collect them.

^^^^^ All of this!

Hope tonight is ruined by dickheads - on any side...

 

[Ricster]

This is what happened to myself in 2004 at COMS.

The letter is written by my dad as he is more legally aware than myself, so left the contact in his hands.

13 December 2004

Chief Constable
* * ****
Greater Manchester Police
P.O. Box 22
Manchester
M16 ORE



Dear Sir,


MANCHESTER CITY V’s TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR (Saturday 11 December 2004)
ASSAULT ON MY SON (****** *******) BY POLICE OFFICER 4076


On Saturday 11th December 2004, my son ******* (aged 26) and myself attended the City of Manchester Stadium for the City V’s Spurs game.

At approximately 5 – 10 minutes into the second half, six or seven stewards came down the isle between blocks 117 and 118 and began asking supporters in the lower rows to sit down. (We sit on the end of Row L).

My son was explaining to the steward at the end of our row that if we sit down, we don’t see the game, and he sympathised with us but said that they had been told by the Council that we had to sit down. Similar discussions were taking place with other stewards/supporters further down the block.

A number of Police Officers then appeared and targeted a man probably in his mid/late twenties wearing a light/tan jacket who was approximately six rows in front of us. A woman Police Officer was at the end of our Row and ******* spoke to her and reiterated what he had said to the Steward. The female Officer appeared to be quite approachable, but clearly the police had been instructed to support the stewards.

The Police lower down had decided to apprehend the man in the tan jacket and started to bring him up the steps. As they passed the end of Row L, a young man from four of five places further along came to the end of the row and grabbed the arm of PC 4076.
The PC turned around and pushed his open palm into my son’s face with the base of his hand under ******** nose, causing him to fall backwards over the seats of the row in front. I grabbed hold of ******* to prevent him falling further and onto supporters in front of us.
The man that had grabbed the PC’s arm had let go and retreated further along row L, and the PC came along the row to apprehend him, nearly knocking me, and my son who I was still holding onto, into the row in front.






I asked the Police Officer what the hell he thought he was doing, and at this point he must have realised what was happening and that he was becoming isolated, and he retreated and went up the steps.

******* and myself then approached one of the Stewards to complain about the assault by the police officer. The steward took us up the steps and off the concourse to a quiet area so that he could take our details and he said that he would put it in his report.

The assault on my son was unwarranted and could not have been mistaken identity as the person that grabbed the PC’s arm was wearing a woollen sweater with dark brown and light brown hoops, my son was wearing his blue city top.

On Sunday morning, my son got up for work and suffered a nosebleed and taking into account that he is not prone to such things, I can only presume that this occurred as a result of the assault detailed above.


I therefore wish to make a formal complaint of assault by your Police Officer on my son at approximately 1617 hrs on Saturday 11th December 2004.

An Inspector did phone my dad back, unlike Fletcher, and we were satisfied with the outcome from the Police but felt let down by City and Fletcher in particular.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Excuse my ignorance but what is the significance, if any, of this happening in Block 109? From where I sit its not a particularly visible part of the ground so I dont know what the make up of the crowd is in there.

Is it customarily all standing, or are there significant numbers that want to sit? The pics give the impression that its all standing but the club said that the stewards were callled following complaints. Why would people complain, or are the club not telling the truth?

Tragically. It doesn't matter. Because, like the fucking smoking gang, there are people there who couldnt give a shit and just do what they want regardless and want to gob off and give it the big one if challenged.

 

[SWP's back]

Or maybe an explanaition as to why the Showsec stewards lied about this man comitting a breach of the peace?

I would not doubt for one minute that showsec may have lied mate.

I'm simply saying that the police did what they did "for the best intentions".

-- Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:15 am --

People said they were being pushed around and kicked by plod

De-arrested means he was innocent

De-arrested means there was no evidence to continue the arrest or caution him. Not quite the same thing.

As for police barging people around, you've seen the video. There was a lot of barging going on everywhere. You don't think the police removing the man calmed things down at all?

Come on lads. As I've said before, I want rid of showsec, want rid of Fletcher, think 109 should be allowed to be standing and everything but the myopia prevailing on this thread is ludicrous and if anything, weakens your argument.

As for the bloke requesting a towel before he sat down, if that's the best "his side of the argument" that he could come up with, then I'm sure the truth may paint him in a worse light. If he was not allowed to collect his minors, that's terrible but there has been so much one sided-ness spewing from many on here that I find myself questioning that part of the story. If he was their guardian then he would have been able to tell any dibble about and be escorted back to collect them.

If you've read most of the thread like me you will see somebodys bruises, doesn't look like an accidental barge.

Ok. Pick out one sentence, ignore the rest. Believe only what you want to, random picture of a bruise, form opinions based on only what you want to hear. Great skills.