Trouble in the East Stand??

[Scareye]

This thread just highlights how many council estate dwelling Neanderthals we have as 'fans'. The club need to start taking a firm stance on stadium rules. The rules are you sit down, or leave. Is that so hard to grasp? Same goes with many other stadium infringements of rules, its a joke. If people just obeyed the rules, there would be no issue. The club should start handing out long term bans, then lets see how many are keen to fight the system.

Ground rules:





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If you don't like it, don't renew next year, the club doesn't need trouble causing yobs as supporters...

I know I shouldn't but...what a twattish comment!!!

Maybe so, but justified and warranted given some of the posts thus far. People threatening physical abuse to people for giving an objective opinion they disagreed with.

I pay good money to take 3 special needs kids to all home games. If someone was persistently standing in front of me, I'd ask them to sit down. If they further ignored me, I'd report them to steward. If they ignored staff, I'd want them ejecting. Those are the rules, and although blocks 109 etc are widely regarded as unofficial standing areas, if someone wants to sit, they should be within their rights to do so, and those in front should sit down, or face the consequences.

At the end of the day, the more people make an issue by posting vids like this that have hit the MEN, the more likely the club will take a zero tolerance stance on the situation...

EDIT: Its also quite sad, no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter, instead I get 'prize egg', 'shit post' etc. All you're doing is compounding my initial suggestion of a fan stereotype, so thanks I guess.

And calling fellow blues Council estate dwelling neanderthals sparks a healthy debate does it?? I have no real issue with your standpoint, I do however have issues with heavy handed bullying of elderly fellow fans and that is the real issue here in my oppinion!

 

[M18CTID]

EDIT: Its also quite sad, no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Indeed. "Council estate dwelling neandarthals" yet says no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter.

You couldn't make it up.

 

[el blue]

Maybe so, but justified and warranted given some of the posts thus far. People threatening physical abuse to people for giving an objective opinion they disagreed with.

I pay good money to take 3 special needs kids to all home games. If someone was persistently standing in front of me, I'd ask them to sit down. If they further ignored me, I'd report them to steward. If they ignored staff, I'd want them ejecting. Those are the rules, and although blocks 109 etc are widely regarded as unofficial standing areas, if someone wants to sit, they should be within their rights to do so, and those in front should sit down, or face the consequences.

At the end of the day, the more people make an issue by posting vids like this that have hit the MEN, the more likely the club will take a zero tolerance stance on the situation...

EDIT: Its also quite sad, no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter, instead I get 'prize egg', 'shit post' etc. All you're doing is compounding my initial suggestion of a fan stereotype, so thanks I guess.

My issue with your comments is that you appear overzealous in search of injustice at the expense of fellow blues. Block 109 is one of the most vocal and atmospherically enhancing blocks in the COMS, you choose to call them council estate dwelling Neanderthals. You have this weird perception on the rules - "you sit down, or leave" - yes that is hard to grasp because thems aint the rules. You have not properly considered your own argument that if someone wants to sit down those infront should immediately comply, surely majority rules in this occasion. If 500 people are all stood up in front of you and have been for the last umpteen matches and actually bought tickets in that block on the proviso that they would be free to stand then surely it appeals to all reason and good logic that you should move, as opposed to what you suggest - " I'd ask them to sit down. If they further ignored me, I'd report them to steward. If they ignored staff, I'd want them ejecting." Yeah, alright Stalin.

 

[reddishblue]

Latest news

GMP statement following incident at Etihad Stadium





Chief Superintendent Gerry Donnellan said: "Just before half time during the match between Manchester City and Aston Villa on Saturday 15 October 2011, club stewards and security requested the assistance of GMP as, in line with their rules, they were asking a man in the crowd to leave the ground because he refused to sit down.

"Officers only assist if there is a breach of the peace or if there is a likelihood of a breach of the peace occurring and in this case there was one; stewards were struggling with the man and other people in the crowd.

"The man was arrested on suspicion of causing a breach of the peace, but de-arrested when the breach of the peace had ceased.

"He was seen to collapse and paramedics attended, where he was given a clean bill of health.

"Two men were arrested on suspicion of common assault after incidents with stewards. One was later charged and one was given a Fixed Penalty Notice.

"The force's Professional Standards Branch has received a complaint from a third party and will respond in the appropriate fashion in due course."

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[tolmie's hairdoo]

There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

 

[Neville Kneville]

EDIT: Its also quite sad, no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Indeed. "Council estate dwelling neandarthals" yet says no one can engage in an intelligent debate on the matter.

You couldn't make it up.

Un be fucking lieveable.

 

[el blue]

So he was supposed to be a good boy and sit down and stare at someones arse for the rest of the game?

 

[bobmcfc]

So he was supposed to be a good boy and sit down and stare at someones arse for the rest of the game?

not very fair is it

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.

disagree, club's job to enforce their policies clearly and explicitely to supporters.

the fan was also sitting down in these vids and yet was still dragged out when hundreds of other fans were left.

This policy of picking off at random is disgusting and wrong and the GMP nor showsec nor the club have a leg to stand on.

The fan's done fuck all wrong and been assaulted for it.