Trouble in the East Stand??

Couldn't the police see the total inequality occurring? One man getting chucked out for 'standing' whilst everyone around him was standing? If everyone was sitting, fair enough. That is the point I'm making.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.
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Also, I fail to see any hypocrisy in my earlier statement, I'm bemused in fact...
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?
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What about a petition and a candlelight vigil?

FFS it's our best season for donkeys years and you want people to boycott matches?
 
phuzion said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.
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Also, I fail to see any hypocrisy in my earlier statement, I'm bemused in fact...
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It is not a surprise to me that you are bemused.
 
gaudinho's stolen car said:
phuzion said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.
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Also, I fail to see any hypocrisy in my earlier statement, I'm bemused in fact...
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It is not a surprise to me that you are bemused.
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Yet you have no explanation or retort. Quick, go join your flock...
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.
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disagree, club's job to enforce their policies clearly and explicitely to supporters.

the fan was also sitting down in these vids and yet was still dragged out when hundreds of other fans were left.

This policy of picking off at random is disgusting and wrong and the GMP nor showsec nor the club have a leg to stand on.

The fan's done fuck all wrong and been assaulted for it.
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That's splitting hairs mate, and you know it.

If the club was to enforce their policies, every match would be a war zone. They have to make examples until people get the message.

It's the reason why United's ticket allocation was reduced by City last season, as it was at Liverpool.

It was down to their persistent standing, irrespective of the fact they know they can't throw the other 2,000 out for all doing it.

It's clear Smoking is not allowed, all the same, fans believe a 'safety in numbers' stance will see them all right, make it unenforceable by the letter of the law.

That's down to simple intimidation at the end of the day, which is why City operate snatch-squads.

It's the same with standing and, on this occasion, as I say, the guy did himself no favours by his behaviour to prolong the flashpoint.

As for him sitting down, let's not kid and kidder. He was sat down so they couldn't drag him out easily, same with the dying swan routine.
 
Tolmie, are you suggesting the heart rate for standing for 90 minutes and the heart rate when you are being forcibly removed from somewhere would be the same?
 
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