Trouble in the East Stand??

[bobmcfc]

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lol

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I agree with showsec being a set of fucking gorrillas.

that's unfair to gorillas, as proven in Rise of the Planet of the Apes they can be intelligent.

-- Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:17 pm --

I'm still too busy wiping up the shit which clearly spills from your keyboard.

Didn't hear Apple had released one for knuckles only?

The I-sad 12, no doubt.

so you get in a tizz when somebody has a dig at you yet give even more childish replies back?

can't we just cut it out and get back on topic?

That's fair enough. I wasn't in a tizz, however, only that you chose to follow up a previous dig.

As my first post stated, my dad got thrown out for smoking couple years back. There were hundreds doing likewise.

I could only watch as Showsec grabbed him and requested my seasoncard no's (for insurance purposes, but were kidding nobody)

I refused this but still had no other leg to stand on in terms of appealing for them to let my dad stay in the ground.

I see no difference with the standing issue. Prestwich Blue is talking about 'nods and winks', all well and good, but City are caught between a rock and hard place every week.

If any fan has been sold something they were promised, they can demand their monies back, surely?

now you trample into the grey area.

smoking is a lot more clear cut legally than standing, my bone of contention is that non smokers have been thrown out before now and the issue still isn't resolved with adults(and kids!) continually smoking in L1 bogs and blocking the exits, that's why I put the "work with the club to formulate a workable strategy for smokers" in several of my posts.

 

[jrb]

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Isn't the internet great. :-) I'm 100% sure Showsec are loving all this free advertising. :-/

 

[SWP's back]

I never received anything?

I got my renewal back so it seems they know where I'm sat and have my address...

Seems most people did Tim. The 2 lads behind and in front of my old seat did.

I've moved so can't say for sure but it does seem the majority received one (in fact you're the first 109-er I've come across that said you hadn't got one). I remember a big thread about it when they first went out.

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Funny that JRB started that thread, posted the letter but ignores it and refers back to being sold he could stand there off some bloke in the ticket office. The same ticket office he knows is shite and slags off at every opportunity on other threads but relies on as gospel when it suits his argument.

But before you have a go JRB, I understand your frustration but until Fletcher changes his mind then everyone in 109 is at risk.

Wait a minute.

It's not an argument.(even though you might be trying to make it one) It's my opinion. Doesn't make right or wrong. I have my views. If other people don't agree with them(you), fair enough. I'm not going to beat myself up about it.(like you're doing)

Yes I started that thread. Your point being? (I'm sure Me Fletcher will be please with his name being highlighted so often :-? ) My views in that thread/post still stand to this day.

I handed out those standing questionaires in 109 a few weeks back and the vast majority of fans I handed the questionaires out to were in favour of standing. I'll leave it at that.

When did I call the ticket 'shite'? Feel free. I've highlighted a possible failing, which may have contributed to the on-going problems in block 109, along with other failings. If bringing the ticket office to task upsets you, that's not my problem. 'Every opportunity on other threads'. Once again, feel free.

At the end of the day you can pull me up as much as you want. Doesn't bother me. What bothers me is they way City and Showsec are treating (individual) City fans in block 109.(that's not the City I know) You should be more concerned about that instead of me and my views.

Peace.(not going to get into a tit-for-tat)

I've said what I am concerned about. I'm not having a go at you.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Just to be absolutely clear on this Skash, is Row B the front row and, if not, were there people in front of him who were stood up when they were trying to get him to sit down?

Plus when the police arrived, did the stewards grab him at that point or did the police do something?

I'm in touch with the FSF and have a couple of journalist contacts who I'll be speaking to and I want to be sure of the facts.

No, row B is not the front row. No-one was stood up in front of him at the time but there had been earlier but there were people standing either side of him still and they still picked out this man for whatever reason, not those around him. The logical way is to go right to left because the majority of the pitch is to the right and yet this man is dead centre.

From the point the police arrived there is video footage. Stewards were grabbing him even after the police arrived which I believe they're not allowed to do unless he's posing a threat.

Sorry to be pedantic but were there people on Row A who had sat down?

 

[Ricster]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

I'll boycott a game. Get it arranged and i'll post a link to a thread on the FB group for you. Dont want anything to soon. Maybe after the derby.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

But it's not just homophobic chants and giving the big 'un to rival fans that upsets you is it? The other week you were moaning about the banter aimed at the overweight Birmingham fan in the Carling Cup game and saying people should've concentrated on watching the match ffs. You come across as a big girl's blouse who has undergone a sense of humour bypass and the only reason why you get any kudos on here is because of your ITK status (teasing tit-bits usually given in the form of attention-seeking cryptic YouTube vids) that has dozens of lemmings sucking your cock and begging for more info.

Calm down skippy.

Nah, your right, I shouldn't consider homophobic chants offensive.

Nor be bemused by the sight of some fans getting their jollies taking the piss out a rival fan for the majority of the second half against Brum.

Funny how you interpret that one-off, one line post, as moaning. It clearly resonated with you, I wonder why...

I should just man the fuck up, like you, hard man, who can't debate the issue in question, without letting your petty jealousy making it personal.

You missed my point entirely. If you could bother engaging your brain for more than a millisecond, then you'll see my beef wasn't anything to do with your issues about homophobic chanting or fronting up away fans but everything to do with you spitting your dummy out about the banter with the Birmingham fan the other week.

Oh, and the reason why that resonated so much with me is that the comment was completely out of touch with everything else in the thread. It was fuck-all whatsoever to do with petty jealousy about your ITK status you fucking sad twat.

You are the one who continues to take this debate into a personal direction, read it back.

You are the only person citing banter with a Birmingham fan, the only one bringing my supposed ITK status into the equation.

In fact, you've brought nothing else to it apart from the beef you seemingly do have, with me.

Just ignore me, I'm a sad twat after all.

 

[SWP's back]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

I'll boycott a game. Get it arranged and i'll post a link to a thread on the FB group for you. Dont want anything to soon. Maybe after the derby.

Awful idea.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

I'll boycott a game. Get it arranged and i'll post a link to a thread on the FB group for you. Dont want anything to soon. Maybe after the derby.

Awful idea.

was just a suggestion to try and create maximum impact, I'm more than open to other suggestions/ideas.

 

[Ricster]

Up to page number 93 at the moment. For all those slaggin off the old guy, and the posters who are sticking up for a fellow blue.

This male was asked to sit down, when those around him were still stood up. Im the steward, you sit on the 2nd row. The front row is still stood up, but im telling you to sit down on the 2nd row. Now you and i both know that when you sit down, youre going to see fuck all, and waste the money you have spent on buying your ticket for the game.

Gonna sit down are you? Am i fuck!