The only thing that worries me about Mourinho's difficulties is that I can remember clearly the mounting difficulties of another obnoxious *!$** thirty years ago and United's response was to throw more and more money at the problem each year, as the fury of their fans - funnily enough only about 35000 then - grew, until seven years later the manager got it right. My real hope and belief is that it is a completely different world now and the shareholders won't be allowed to bale Mourinho out like they did the old bacon faced one, but the football his teams played was just as boring as the stuff Mou's lot dish up. Hopefully Mourinho is genuinely past his sell-by date as a coach and tactician and that his accusations that City players dive and commit tactical fouls (didn't they used to be known as "professional" fouls? - and no English side ever stooped to those depths!) along with his assertion that celebrating a win is lacking respect, were simple preparations fealing with the defeat he knew to be inevitable because he has no answer to this City team. It isn't working with the United fans I know. They all find him an embarrassment, hate the football served up and admit freely to their admiration of Pe p. Many in the media seem to have reached a tipping point on Sunday, but the Mail is still having a go at perpetuating this image of Mourinho as the smooth operator, always in control and always coming out on top - with an article headed "Now Mourinho lands a verbal blow on Guardiola", though I see that even this has been changed. Let's hope, as you suggest Ric, that these are the first signs of a period of turbulence and chaos at OT which paralyses them for years. All "Mou" might need now is embroiling in another "gender issue".