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stonie said:
it's a true story so couldn't really alter how it was, just watched the last one and worthy of IMBD rating maybe slightly higher
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Plus they may want to do another. I know it's then no longer true, but it probably has legs
 
meltonblue said:
I’m still not sure about it. I’m enjoying watching it still but some of the plot devices are pretty naff.
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Can you elaborate, mate? As a book reader, I've found the TV show plot has really added a lot of nuance missing from the book (which, in fairness, was written as an 'unreliable' narrative).
 
RobMCFC said:
I lasted 10 minutes, which admittedly is not enough to have a valid opinion. However when three things really annoy you early doors, you know it's not for you:-

1. Pointless swearing at each other. I like a good bit of swearing but not every f***ckin' sentence.
2. Everybody calling each other "chef".
3. Camera in everybody's face - I suppose claustrophobic was the feel they were going for but I didn't like it.

It's obviously got something as many are raving about it, but not me.
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Not watched it yet but on the 3 things as chef for the last 28 years

1)kitchens are very sweary, though not for the sake of it
2) only the head chef is ever called chef any junior chef trying to use it would be laughed at
3) if a claustrophobic effect is to minic a kitchen, Cooks work in sections and normally have space to work, the stress and pressure of a busy kitchen is never claustrophobic in my experience and if any one is in your face they told to fuck of out of it.

Always worry on Kitchen dramas as they tend badly exagerate the reality, and the last I watched Boiling Point with Stephen Graham was so bad and shite I am put off watching this.


Saying that never worked in the US so may be different there
 
urban genie said:
Not watched it yet but on the 3 things as chef for the last 28 years

1)kitchens are very sweary, though not for the sake of it
2) only the head chef is ever called chef any junior chef trying to use it would be laughed at
3) if a claustrophobic effect is to minic a kitchen, Cooks work in sections and normally have space to work, the stress and pressure of a busy kitchen is never claustrophobic in my experience and if any one is in your face they told to fuck of out of it.

Always worry on Kitchen dramas as they tend badly exagerate the reality, and the last I watched Boiling Point with Stephen Graham was so bad and shite I am put off watching this.


Saying that never worked in the US so may be different there
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For context, its not a proper restaurant, its a greasy spoon for all purposes and the real 'chef' is trying to incorporate a bit of professionalism and mutual respect in to the kitchen as its a shit show with bickering etc.. Obviously some artistic license cos its a fictional drama
 
urban genie said:
Not watched it yet but on the 3 things as chef for the last 28 years

1)kitchens are very sweary, though not for the sake of it
2) only the head chef is ever called chef any junior chef trying to use it would be laughed at
3) if a claustrophobic effect is to minic a kitchen, Cooks work in sections and normally have space to work, the stress and pressure of a busy kitchen is never claustrophobic in my experience and if any one is in your face they told to fuck of out of it.

Always worry on Kitchen dramas as they tend badly exagerate the reality, and the last I watched Boiling Point with Stephen Graham was so bad and shite I am put off watching this.


Saying that never worked in the US so may be different there
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I loved Boiling Point and I really liked this, each to their own I suppose.
But in fairness I’ve never worked in a kitchen.
 
super_city_si said:
For context, its not a proper restaurant, its a greasy spoon for all purposes and the real 'chef' is trying to incorporate a bit of professionalism and mutual respect in to the kitchen as its a shit show with bickering etc.. Obviously some artistic license cos its a fictional drama
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For my context (though not really relevent) I have worked in a greasy spoon style diner, golf club, bar, pub, bistro, chippy, fast food joint, banqueting, restraunt, hotel(s), industrial catering and education.


Most sweary, bickering place was with the dinner ladies ;-)
 
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A note on the Bear, The bloke that plays a bit part, is covered in tats and always fixing machines and stuff is a real chef from Toronto called Matty Matheson.
He used to have a t.v show over on Vice (I think).
 
Roy Munson said:
Can you elaborate, mate? As a book reader, I've found the TV show plot has really added a lot of nuance missing from the book (which, in fairness, was written as an 'unreliable' narrative).
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I’m just finding it quite lazy and obvious in terms of how it’s moving the plot forward, there’s not any nuance, the kings council and the discussions there compared to GoT for example. Aside from the guy helping the queen, who just seems to be doing to just for something to do, there’s no-one like Tyrion, Varys or Littlefinger.

There’s nothing clever moving it forward, it seems to be just convenient actions (like the queen misunderstanding Vicerys on his death bed).

Given there’s virtually no humour in any of it either, I just don’t think it’s particularly well done. The acting and the action scenes are great and I’m still enjoying it because of that. It’s just all a bit simple.
 
meltonblue said:
I’m just finding it quite lazy and obvious in terms of how it’s moving the plot forward, there’s not any nuance, the kings council and the discussions there compared to GoT for example. Aside from the guy helping the queen, who just seems to be doing to just for something to do, there’s no-one like Tyrion, Varys or Littlefinger.

There’s nothing clever moving it forward, it seems to be just convenient actions (like the queen misunderstanding Vicerys on his death bed).

Given there’s virtually no humour in any of it either, I just don’t think it’s particularly well done. The acting and the action scenes are great and I’m still enjoying it because of that. It’s just all a bit simple.
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Fair enough.

Personally, I find Otto's machinations pretty fascinating. He's essentially weaponised his daughter for his own gain.

Also, Mysaria is pretty much the forerunner of Varys. She has a much bigger role to play as Master of Whispers moving forward.
 
Roy Munson said:
Fair enough.

Personally, I find Otto's machinations pretty fascinating. He's essentially weaponised his daughter for his own gain.

Also, Mysaria is pretty much the forerunner of Varys. She has a much bigger role to play as Master of Whispers moving forward.
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Well yes, they made Ottos intentions explicit right from the get go. That’s a prime example though, all he really had to do was say to his daughter “go and try and shag the king”, he’s not actually done anything clever at all, it’s all then fallen conveniently into his lap through the actions of others.
 
Stumbled onto Mindhunters last week. Very good so far. Finished season 1. Serial killers seem to be everywhere these days. Frightening stuff but captivating all the same.
 
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Re watching Lillyhmmer at the moment.
Just to see how it stands up to time.
I think it may have been the first ever show Netflix were involved in.
Still enjoyable.
Steve Van Zandt is one unlikely sex symbol, both as an actor and with the E street band.
 
meltonblue said:
Well yes, they made Ottos intentions explicit right from the get go. That’s a prime example though, all he really had to do was say to his daughter “go and try and shag the king”, he’s not actually done anything clever at all, it’s all then fallen conveniently into his lap through the actions of others.
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I've not watched the latest episode, I've found that the characters are making such bad decisions it's infuriating me too much.

I assume they're trying to point out how flawed they are, but some of it's just maddening. And confusing the meaning of a dying man's last words is such a tired cliché.

I saw a promo for the last episode where Rhaenys could have killed all of her enemies with the dragon and ended the war before it even started and her obviously not doing it annoyed me to the point I can't be bothered to watch.
 
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