Txiki Begiristain | Has left the club after 13 years (pg50)

It feels to me that the whole organisation has taken its eye off the football team, with a delusion that Pep would just keep us elite ongoing.

I think there’s too much going on and not enough people in the right positions to get it done, with too much distance in the line of management from the football team and fanbase to the top of the whole of the City Football Group organisation.

There’s the obsession with money which is all it feels like the club is bothered about, money money money, then the multiple teams across the CFG (so unimportant to me I couldn’t name them all off the top of my head), the youth teams, the women’s team, the Co-Op Live, the new North Stand, the hotel, news of further hotels, the women’s training ground, the 130 charges, the APT case, an obsession with organising ticketing to worldwide football fans (whether they support City or not), money money money…

We must be the only football club, maybe even only sports club, who doesn’t have a CEO. Ferran Soriano is the CEO of the CFG, not City. How many other positions do we have that are the same? Surely we should have a CEO for the club, with a boardroom, who solely work for Manchester City so that the interests of our football club are being worked on daily?

It feels like that entire organisation isn’t concentrating on Manchester City’s men’s first team enough. There’s too much going on, and it feels like they’re too detached from the day-to-day running of Manchester City and too detached from its core supporters.

The football team has seen a stark decline in quality. Signings have been hit and miss and of a general quality that isn’t at the standard it used to be, going back a few years now. Looking around the pitch in the last couple of games where it’s been really lacklustre and boring to watch with low quality. I’ve been thinking, where have all the elite players gone? The two centre halves (Dias and Gvardiol) have been the only two who’ve played in the last two games that you’d rate at the quality from the past. When a fifth choice midfielder playing right back is getting MOTM, and the best we can put out is a load of players at the end of their time with us, something’s not right.

And look at what’s happened to our wage bill and structure. For years we had elite players like Agüero, David Silva, Fernandinho, Kompany etc. and they weren’t on record wages. Even De Bruyne who was the country’s highest paid player built his wages up over six years before he was. United always had a higher wage bill than we did. However, the money a lot of them are banged on straight away on their first contract at City these days: Grealish £300k/wk, Marmoush £295k/wk, Gvardiol who’s only young £200k/wk, Kovačić a bit part player on £150k/wk, Christian McFarlane £15k/wk (Foden who was playing regularly was only on £12k/wk until he was 21)… have a look at other clubs’ wage bills (Van Dijk is Liverpool’s second highest earner on just £220k/wk), we are now paying miles more than everyone else. Putting Haaland on £525k/wk. What’s that about?

We used to be able to entice players to sign for us and be able to keep them for years because of the football and ambition of the club, now it’s like we’ve gone ‘sod it, we’ll just pay them loads’. The club seems to want to milk every fan for every penny they can get, pricing out core supporters of this club and aiming to replace them with worldwide nobodies whether they support City or not which is ruining our stands, yet they are hammering out top wages like there’s no tomorrow.

Everything at the club feels like it’s being run by people who aren’t dedicated solely to the interests of the Manchester City men’s first team and its long loyal local supporters. People who are the top brass of the CFG shouldn’t be running Manchester City, that should be left to a dedicated boardroom of people who work solely for City. That way, all the other projects that are going on can be left to those who need to run them, and the day-to-day business of running City properly - from recruitment, to wage structure, to liaising with fans - can be run by them.
It must be difficult though. I look at it differently. They have achieved so much despite UEFA The FA and The PL doing their best to stop us. Think of the time we have had to spend on 115 and yet we still forged ahead.

The results have been remarkable and I hope last season was a blip.

The focus had to turn away from us local fans to money money money because of rules designed to finish our club forever.

I prefer to compare our club before and after the takeover and ask the question “is the club in a better state?” I think it’s immeasurably better and part of that is down to the CFG.

We are always planning for the future and sometimes take our eye off the past as a result. Mistakes have certainly been made but ask me if I would swap our owners for any other in the World right now? No.
 
For all those slagging the guy off:

Indeed, under Txiki’s watch, City have won 21 major trophies, including seven Premier League titles, two FA Cups, one Champions League, one FIFA Club World Cup and one UEFA Super Cup.

Just read that again and think. Of course its a team effort but fuck sake, the guy deserves our thanks and he will always be an important part of our history.

Has anyone slagged HIM off? It's okay to criticise some signings, that's not slagging him off. Unless I've missed the posts?
 
Has anyone slagged HIM off? It's okay to criticise some signings, that's not slagging him off. Unless I've missed the posts?
has anyone slagged him off, fucking constantly is the answer, they only pop up when we get beat though or we "miss out" on the latest generational talent( wankers saying), a bit like the pep has been found out brigade
 
It feels to me that the whole organisation has taken its eye off the football team, with a delusion that Pep would just keep us elite ongoing.

I think there’s too much going on and not enough people in the right positions to get it done, with too much distance in the line of management from the football team and fanbase to the top of the whole of the City Football Group organisation.

There’s the obsession with money which is all it feels like the club is bothered about, money money money, then the multiple teams across the CFG (so unimportant to me I couldn’t name them all off the top of my head), the youth teams, the women’s team, the Co-Op Live, the new North Stand, the hotel, news of further hotels, the women’s training ground, the 130 charges, the APT case, an obsession with organising ticketing to worldwide football fans (whether they support City or not), money money money…

We must be the only football club, maybe even only sports club, who doesn’t have a CEO. Ferran Soriano is the CEO of the CFG, not City. How many other positions do we have that are the same? Surely we should have a CEO for the club, with a boardroom, who solely work for Manchester City so that the interests of our football club are being worked on daily?

It feels like that entire organisation isn’t concentrating on Manchester City’s men’s first team enough. There’s too much going on, and it feels like they’re too detached from the day-to-day running of Manchester City and too detached from its core supporters.

The football team has seen a stark decline in quality. Signings have been hit and miss and of a general quality that isn’t at the standard it used to be, going back a few years now. Looking around the pitch in the last couple of games where it’s been really lacklustre and boring to watch with low quality. I’ve been thinking, where have all the elite players gone? The two centre halves (Dias and Gvardiol) have been the only two who’ve played in the last two games that you’d rate at the quality from the past. When a fifth choice midfielder playing right back is getting MOTM, and the best we can put out is a load of players at the end of their time with us, something’s not right.

And look at what’s happened to our wage bill and structure. For years we had elite players like Agüero, David Silva, Fernandinho, Kompany etc. and they weren’t on record wages. Even De Bruyne who was the country’s highest paid player built his wages up over six years before he was. United always had a higher wage bill than we did. However, the money a lot of them are banged on straight away on their first contract at City these days: Grealish £300k/wk, Marmoush £295k/wk, Gvardiol who’s only young £200k/wk, Kovačić a bit part player on £150k/wk, Christian McFarlane £15k/wk (Foden who was playing regularly was only on £12k/wk until he was 21)… have a look at other clubs’ wage bills (Van Dijk is Liverpool’s second highest earner on just £220k/wk), we are now paying miles more than everyone else. Putting Haaland on £525k/wk. What’s that about?

We used to be able to entice players to sign for us and be able to keep them for years because of the football and ambition of the club, now it’s like we’ve gone ‘sod it, we’ll just pay them loads’. The club seems to want to milk every fan for every penny they can get, pricing out core supporters of this club and aiming to replace them with worldwide nobodies whether they support City or not which is ruining our stands, yet they are hammering out top wages like there’s no tomorrow.

Everything at the club feels like it’s being run by people who aren’t dedicated solely to the interests of the Manchester City men’s first team and its long loyal local supporters. People who are the top brass of the CFG shouldn’t be running Manchester City, that should be left to a dedicated boardroom of people who work solely for City. That way, all the other projects that are going on can be left to those who need to run them, and the day-to-day business of running City properly - from recruitment, to wage structure, to liaising with fans - can be run by them.

Marmoush is on £295k a week! You have to be kidding me?
 
For all those slagging the guy off:

Indeed, under Txiki’s watch, City have won 21 major trophies, including seven Premier League titles, two FA Cups, one Champions League, one FIFA Club World Cup and one UEFA Super Cup.

Just read that again and think. Of course its a team effort but fuck sake, the guy deserves our thanks and he will always be an important part of our history.
Don't forget them 17 million league cups we've won as well. Every single trophy is priceless, not just the biggies.
 
It feels to me that the whole organisation has taken its eye off the football team, with a delusion that Pep would just keep us elite ongoing.

I think there’s too much going on and not enough people in the right positions to get it done, with too much distance in the line of management from the football team and fanbase to the top of the whole of the City Football Group organisation.

There’s the obsession with money which is all it feels like the club is bothered about, money money money, then the multiple teams across the CFG (so unimportant to me I couldn’t name them all off the top of my head), the youth teams, the women’s team, the Co-Op Live, the new North Stand, the hotel, news of further hotels, the women’s training ground, the 130 charges, the APT case, an obsession with organising ticketing to worldwide football fans (whether they support City or not), money money money…

We must be the only football club, maybe even only sports club, who doesn’t have a CEO. Ferran Soriano is the CEO of the CFG, not City. How many other positions do we have that are the same? Surely we should have a CEO for the club, with a boardroom, who solely work for Manchester City so that the interests of our football club are being worked on daily?

It feels like that entire organisation isn’t concentrating on Manchester City’s men’s first team enough. There’s too much going on, and it feels like they’re too detached from the day-to-day running of Manchester City and too detached from its core supporters.

The football team has seen a stark decline in quality. Signings have been hit and miss and of a general quality that isn’t at the standard it used to be, going back a few years now. Looking around the pitch in the last couple of games where it’s been really lacklustre and boring to watch with low quality. I’ve been thinking, where have all the elite players gone? The two centre halves (Dias and Gvardiol) have been the only two who’ve played in the last two games that you’d rate at the quality from the past. When a fifth choice midfielder playing right back is getting MOTM, and the best we can put out is a load of players at the end of their time with us, something’s not right.

And look at what’s happened to our wage bill and structure. For years we had elite players like Agüero, David Silva, Fernandinho, Kompany etc. and they weren’t on record wages. Even De Bruyne who was the country’s highest paid player built his wages up over six years before he was. United always had a higher wage bill than we did. However, the money a lot of them are banged on straight away on their first contract at City these days: Grealish £300k/wk, Marmoush £295k/wk, Gvardiol who’s only young £200k/wk, Kovačić a bit part player on £150k/wk, Christian McFarlane £15k/wk (Foden who was playing regularly was only on £12k/wk until he was 21)… have a look at other clubs’ wage bills (Van Dijk is Liverpool’s second highest earner on just £220k/wk), we are now paying miles more than everyone else. Putting Haaland on £525k/wk. What’s that about?

We used to be able to entice players to sign for us and be able to keep them for years because of the football and ambition of the club, now it’s like we’ve gone ‘sod it, we’ll just pay them loads’. The club seems to want to milk every fan for every penny they can get, pricing out core supporters of this club and aiming to replace them with worldwide nobodies whether they support City or not which is ruining our stands, yet they are hammering out top wages like there’s no tomorrow.

Everything at the club feels like it’s being run by people who aren’t dedicated solely to the interests of the Manchester City men’s first team and its long loyal local supporters. People who are the top brass of the CFG shouldn’t be running Manchester City, that should be left to a dedicated boardroom of people who work solely for City. That way, all the other projects that are going on can be left to those who need to run them, and the day-to-day business of running City properly - from recruitment, to wage structure, to liaising with fans - can be run by them.
Incoherent and irrational. You're just dumping all the grumbles and complaints you have and putting it down to management structure. The same management structure that produced results a couple of years ago.
 
Incoherent and irrational. You're just dumping all the grumbles and complaints you have and putting it down to management structure. The same management structure that produced results a couple of years ago.
I'm only surprised they didn't add the national disaster that occurred when they ran out of chips. Certainly never happened under Peter Swales ownership.
 

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