Txiki Begiristain | Has left the club after 13 years (pg50)

at this point I wonder how busy he was last weeks to set up the January moves. he may only start picking up the phone 3rd week of January for some targets and then we hear rumours we might run out of time due to closure of the window 31st January :)

in this situation if we do think of this season seriously any new signing would need to be training already with the team 3rd of January for only the contract signing and medical to be done on the 2nd. unless we can do everything on bank holiday 1st of Jan.
 
argyle said:
Wrong to just blame Txiki for the transfer decisions. He's just one cog in a machine.

It has seemed like something changed 3 years ago. Before that the club were almost surgical like in the transfer market. No fuss. We got who we wanted quickly and efficiently.

Then we started being haphazard in our approach. Random bids for players like Rice with no hope of success. Going for below par players like Phillips and Nunes.
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Its a bit like the Rodwell/Garcia/Sinclair summer. We got so much right in the seasons before then. Then had a huge brain fart

Similar now it seems…
 
Damanino said:
he and his scouts decided Nunes is the signing that is going to help us after we missed out on Bellingham, Rice, Paqueta. a year after they decided Kalvin Phillips will be a shrewd signing.

now we are paying the price for these transfers on the pitch while we still pay their hefty amortized fees for them for a bit more years.

to be fair losing patience with Doku as well if he is ever gonna be a great winger for us scoring/assisting regularly as his off the ball play is a big weakness already and not much in the offensive side of his games this season.
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Whether people like it or not our tixi or whatever he is called has totally dropped the ball and sent us years backwards now with an aging squad who in their day where the best in the world by a mile to now looking at mid table best player his season . Glad he is going but he has left us with a massive rebuild .
 
bitterblue78 said:
He should have bids on the table on january 1st. No excuse
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The players should already be here on January 1st. We can sign players whenever we want, we just have to wait until the registration windows is open before we can register them and use them in games. The need has been evident and obvious for some time, so there is no reason to why any potential targets would arrive late in the window.

With that said, if the last 2 years windows is anything to go by anything but a last minute panic buy would be a surprise. Txiki has been brilliant over the years but unfortunately it seems like he semi-retired when we won the treble. At least that what its seems like judging by his transfer business since then.
 
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Seems like he left his role 2yrs ago. He certainly hasn’t been doing his job of succession planning very well.
 
jrb said:
I think I was a mutual parting, put out by the club as Txiki retiring.

Recruitment and transfer decisions have been very poor over the last 2 seasons
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Then him giving 5 years notice period and a 1 year official notice seems a bit odd.
 
Vester said:
With that said, if the last 2 years windows is anything to go by anything but a last minute panic buy would be a surprise. Txiki has been brilliant over the years but unfortunately it seems like he semi-retired when we won the treble. At least that what its seems like judging by his transfer business since then.
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Some important things to note here that have to be constantly pointed out:
  • Txiki's job is not solely or even primarily about transfers. The Director of Football is essentially the head of the entire football operation over the medium to long term. That is how they are judged - if the club has been a success over the medium/long term and not whether they "had a good window" or if we lost a few games. People who do not judge him on this criteria do not understand his role and may as well be blaming him for the beer being shite
  • City won the Treble having the best squad in the world with players inherently trusted by the manager. People talk about Nunes and Phillips and the like as if they were our July 1st signings. They were not. The quality needed to improve that squad was so high that there were only a few players in the world worth it such as a Rice or a Bellingham, both of which we were in for. They chose to go to other clubs. We chose to fill the gaps with players who had performed well in the Premier League and were admired by the manager instead of getting absolutely nobody.
  • City are not a club with unlimited wealth and when people talk like this, they sound like Guardian writers. We made a £70-odd million profit this year. We sold £139m of players. We can't just go out and spend £500m every time we go on a bad run of form.
  • People constantly hark on about the price of Nunes and Phillips and they're not been relative to the transfer market. Moussa Diaby cost £50m now. Romeo Lavia cost £55m. Mount cost £60m. Tonali cost £55m. Brennan Johnson cost £50m. The idea that a £50m player should buy you a truly world class player is about 10 years out of date. £50m gets you a decent midtable level player who could grow into something nice which is exactly what Nunes is proving to be.
Again, this man is in charge of every football department and not just transfers. The entire direction of the club is down to him and we're the country's most successful club during his tenure here. I honestly don't know what some of you lot are thinking.
 
Damocles said:
Some important things to note here that have to be constantly pointed out:
  • Txiki's job is not solely or even primarily about transfers. The Director of Football is essentially the head of the entire football operation over the medium to long term. That is how they are judged - if the club has been a success over the medium/long term and not whether they "had a good window" or if we lost a few games. People who do not judge him on this criteria do not understand his role and may as well be blaming him for the beer being shite
  • City won the Treble having the best squad in the world with players inherently trusted by the manager. People talk about Nunes and Phillips and the like as if they were our July 1st signings. They were not. The quality needed to improve that squad was so high that there were only a few players in the world worth it such as a Rice or a Bellingham, both of which we were in for. They chose to go to other clubs. We chose to fill the gaps with players who had performed well in the Premier League and were admired by the manager instead of getting absolutely nobody.
  • City are not a club with unlimited wealth and when people talk like this, they sound like Guardian writers. We made a £70-odd million profit this year. We sold £139m of players. We can't just go out and spend £500m every time we go on a bad run of form.
  • People constantly hark on about the price of Nunes and Phillips and they're not been relative to the transfer market. Moussa Diaby cost £50m now. Romeo Lavia cost £55m. Mount cost £60m. Tonali cost £55m. Brennan Johnson cost £50m. The idea that a £50m player should buy you a truly world class player is about 10 years out of date. £50m gets you a decent midtable level player who could grow into something nice which is exactly what Nunes is proving to be.
Again, this man is in charge of every football department and not just transfers. The entire direction of the club is down to him and we're the country's most successful club during his tenure here. I honestly don't know what some of you lot are thinking.
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Most of us are thinking why have the signings been so poor over the last 2 seasons.

In all honesty, and without continual scouting, performance data and analysis, etc, of players that they have at City, is there honestly anyone on BM that would have wanted and would have signed either Phillips and Nunes for a combined total of £100mill?

That aside. We have been desperate for a genuine and proper left back, for seasons. We have been desperate for a good enough defensive midfielder to cover for Rodri and to give him some rest, for seasons. We had £80mill+ from the sale of Alvarez, and instead of buying another striker to replace him, we banked the money and went into the new season with one striker, Haaland, who is struggling to score. Gid forbid if he gets injured as well. A PL club, Champions of England, without a singled recognised striker. That’s an impossible situation to be put in by a club as big and as wealthy as City are.
 
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jrb said:
Most of us are thinking why have the signings been so poor over the last 2 seasons.

In all honesty, and without continual scouting, performance data and analysis, etc, of players that they have at City, is there honestly anyone on BM that would have wanted and would have signed either Phillips and Nunes for a combined total of £100mill?
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I doubt it.
 
jrb said:
Most of us are thinking why have the signings been so poor over the last 2 seasons.

In all honesty, and without continual scouting of the players, performance data and analysis, etc, of a player thst they have at City, is there honestly anyone on BM that would have wanted and would have signed either Phillips and Nunes for a combined total of £100mill?
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Again, £50m gets you a decent midtable player so that's a perfectly normal price. Phillips came directly from Pep after his hero recommended him.

When we originally signed Nunes, people were very excited and there was no talk of overpaying or anything

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But let's go with your logic and suggest that both of these things were mistakes. Since Txiki Begiristain joined, the club has gone from scraping into the CL qualifiers to the country's most dominant football club at every single level of football from the first team to the under 8s, and has won a packet load of trophies doing it while making a profit every year for the last 5 years or so. But two transfers cancel that?
 
Vester said:
The players should already be here on January 1st. We can sign players whenever we want, we just have to wait until the registration windows is open before we can register them and use them in games. The need has been evident and obvious for some time, so there is no reason to why any potential targets would arrive late in the window.

With that said, if the last 2 years windows is anything to go by anything but a last minute panic buy would be a surprise. Txiki has been brilliant over the years but unfortunately it seems like he semi-retired when we won the treble. At least that what its seems like judging by his transfer business since then.
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No doubt if we do sign anyone, it will be the last day of Jan
 
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