@Ric can we delete this thread and start new one?
I was clearly spouting shit when I started it all those years ago ;)
You weren’t spouting shit. Just because he’s been doing a good job since Pep came to us, doesn’t mean he was doing a good job in the years leading up to Pep coming.
You said in your OP in 2016, ‘Under his watch the first team has regressed so badly’. And you were spot on!
We’d gone from winning the title twice in three years and finishing second in the one we didn’t, with a good balance to both title winning teams, with good depth, good fitness, four great striker options for both title wins…
To a team that wasn’t working hard on the pitch, we were ‘nilled’ 8 times that final Pellegrini season and scored just one goal on 10 other occasions; remember how poor we were in that away defeat to Stoke and where it looked like we weren’t trying in a home hammering to Liverpool?; we had four full backs all over the age of 30 who we’d kept for about two years too long and our striker options were just Kun with Bony and Iheanacho as back-ups when we’d previously had Tevez Džeko Balotelli Negredo and Jovetic as well as Kun; we just scraped fourth place on the final day on goal difference and on just 66 points, otherwise Pep would have been coming to a Europa League club.
I thought Txiki and everyone at the club at the time prepared for the arrival of Pep poorly and had allowed the first team to just slide into bad habits and allowed a standard of football to be payed that wasn’t good enough. And it’s the main reason why Pep struggled to get a tune out of them in his first season.
I thought the way the club were being run right across the boardroom from 2014-2016 was average. Being found guilty of failing FFP, whether goalposts were moved or not, and being hacked by a former employee going to Liverpool to have access to our scouting database, showed a massive lack of attention to detail.
And despite having squad spending and wage cap limitations, we still spent about £90m on Mangala, Bony and Fernando (which at that time was a big lay-out).
I don’t think anyone was wrong to have reservations and concerns about the direction the club was going back then and what Guardiola was walking into was not of a high enough standard in anything from fitness to workrate to quality to attention to detail to anything like any kind of holism (which was a buzzword at the time).
Since Pep’s arrived, Txiki seems to have learnt from past mistakes and is now doing a great job. He is overseeing and working with Pep very well. But nobody was wrong to have reservations back in 2016.