Txiki Begiristain

I won't name the players, but City had all Summer to move them out. Instead the club has once again allowed them to run their contracts down, whilst paying them massive wages.(that's tbe problem, partly)

Whether it was Pep or this on-going policy of allowing our players to see out their contracts, this on-going club policy needs changing.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Can I just check because it sounds like Red Cafe on here ?

some of our supporters are morphing into the totally spoilt cnuts who infest the Rag pages .
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I know right, imagine coming onto a football forum after being spanked again and seeing negative comments.

Come on lads, there's no room for complaint we all need to be blindly happy now.
 
The more I think about the Txiki abuse the stranger it seems. I agree that we've clamoured for fullbacks for a while, but I'm sure he's been in constant discussion with Pep since last summer about potential signings.

We obviously haven't seen the right players for the system.
 
Club sucked manager who's worst result was finishing second and that was the season when he wanted new players after winning championship and they bought xavi garcia, nastasic, maicon and sinclair, selling de jong and adam johnson :)
Manager who managed to win the most difficult title battle against the manager who actually invented that battle :D
Manager who created core of current team and no manager or spent trillions of dollars is able to change that. Same aguero silva and toure are leading players anyway.
Manager who taught our players how to defend in just 2 weeks. I couldn't imagine during hughes period that our team could defend well without new additions but after just one match team knew it.
Manager who invented Joe Hart and Vincent Kompany :)
And there can be a long list.

Maybe because of that unfair attitude club deserves that even guardiola isn't able to change things correctly.
 
DavidD said:
Club sucked manager who's worst result was finishing second and that was the season when he wanted new players after winning championship and they bought xavi garcia, nastasic, maicon and sinclair, selling de jong and adam johnson :)
Manager who managed to win the most difficult title battle against the manager who actually invented that battle :D
Manager who created core of current team and no manager or spent trillions of dollars is able to change that. Same aguero silva and toure are leading players anyway.
Manager who taught our players how to defend in just 2 weeks. I couldn't imagine during hughes period that our team could defend well without new additions but after just one match team knew it.
Manager who invented Joe Hart and Vincent Kompany :)
And there can be a long list.

Maybe because of that unfair attitude club deserves that even guardiola isn't able to change things correctly.
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Bet he loved that but by who
 
The problem is we have a lot of players the wrong side of thirty who have achieved a lot in their careers. I'm not sure they have the real desire to go through another system at this stage of their careers. Pep's system requires massive amounts of work to function properly, either some of these guys aren't willing (Kolorov, Clichy, Sagna, Toure) or able anymore (Kompany, Zabaleta, Silva).

We have been mismanaged to such an extent that Guardiola has been left with an ageing squad, of pretty much wage thiefs. SIlva, Kompany and Zabaleta don't fall into this category but they need replacing because they can't do it anymore. SIlva hasn't scored in the PL in months.
 
DavidD said:
Club sucked manager who's worst result was finishing second and that was the season when he wanted new players after winning championship and they bought xavi garcia, nastasic, maicon and sinclair, selling de jong and adam johnson :)
Manager who managed to win the most difficult title battle against the manager who actually invented that battle :D
Manager who created core of current team and no manager or spent trillions of dollars is able to change that. Same aguero silva and toure are leading players anyway.
Manager who taught our players how to defend in just 2 weeks. I couldn't imagine during hughes period that our team could defend well without new additions but after just one match team knew it.
Manager who invented Joe Hart and Vincent Kompany :)
And there can be a long list.

Maybe because of that unfair attitude club deserves that even guardiola isn't able to change things correctly.
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There was many good things about Mancini, it wasn't all good though so we shouldn't be so blinkered.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
His track record in Europe wasn't too good either.
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Exactly, poor title defence (I know he wasn't given the players he wanted the year after but still had the same spine) hopeless in Europe. Special treatment to Balotelli. Sunderland and Everton beating us away every time. Not great with man management and the less said about that Wigan cup final the better
 
Tom_mcfc said:
Exactly, poor title defence (I know he wasn't given the players he wanted the year after but still had the same spine) hopeless in Europe. Special treatment to Balotelli. Sunderland and Everton beating us away every time. Not great with man management and the less said about that Wigan cup final the better
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Pretty sure there was a lot of unrest in his final season with a few players.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
Exactly, poor title defence (I know he wasn't given the players he wanted the year after but still had the same spine) hopeless in Europe. Special treatment to Balotelli. Sunderland and Everton beating us away every time. Not great with man management and the less said about that Wigan cup final the better
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Though we conceded 4 goals once the entire time Mancini was here(aet vs Villa in the cup with our reserves playing)

Pep has conceded 4 twice already this season, conceded 4 or more 4 times last season.
 
01cravend said:
Though we conceded 4 goals once the entire time Mancini was here(aet vs Villa in the cup with our reserves playing)

Pep has conceded 4 twice already this season, conceded 4 or more 4 times last season.
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There are positives with Mancini of course, my reply was in response to someone listing every good point without including the many negatives too. We conceded 4 to a Barca side and played a chunk of the game with ten men. It was in a group game which we qualified from, something Bobby never experienced.
 
01cravend said:
Though we conceded 4 goals once the entire time Mancini was here(aet vs Villa in the cup with our reserves playing)

Pep has conceded 4 twice already this season, conceded 4 or more 4 times last season.
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Also it wasn't a reserve team against Villa
 
Tom_mcfc said:
There are positives with Mancini of course, my reply was in response to someone listing every good point without including the many negatives too. We conceded 4 to a Barca side and played a chunk of the game with ten men. It was in a group game which we qualified from, something Bobby never experienced.
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Mancini had 2 shots at the champions league with us, admittedly one was terrible..The other we finished 3rd with 10points which is more than we got this season in an easier group than back then.
 
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