U17 Euro championship

[unlikelyfan19]

First 10 minutes have pretty much been all Netherlands, but Englad just had a good chance, looks like it's waking them up a bit.

 

[unlikelyfan19]

1 - 0 England

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

First 10 minutes have pretty much been all Netherlands, but Englad just had a good chance, looks like it's waking them up a bit.

i think we've been the better team, we've had more chances and the dutch aren't doing anything with ball. we've shown some good passing so far

 

[unlikelyfan19]

First 10 minutes have pretty much been all Netherlands, but Englad just had a good chance, looks like it's waking them up a bit.

seriously ?? i think we've been the better team, we've had more chances and the dutch aren't doing anything with ball

Absolutely. Since then the game has shifted momentum since England had that chance in the 9th minute.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

First 10 minutes have pretty much been all Netherlands, but Englad just had a good chance, looks like it's waking them up a bit.

seriously ?? i think we've been the better team, we've had more chances and the dutch aren't doing anything with ball

Absolutely. Since then the game has shifted momentum since England had that chance in the 9th minute.

fair enough who has impressed you the most, i think brown is playing quite well.

 

[unlikelyfan19]

seriously ?? i think we've been the better team, we've had more chances and the dutch aren't doing anything with ball

Absolutely. Since then the game has shifted momentum since England had that chance in the 9th minute.

fair enough who has impressed you the most, i think brown is playing quite well.

Same thoughts with Brown. Cheeky corner he won earlier and seems to have a good engine on him.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Absolutely. Since then the game has shifted momentum since England had that chance in the 9th minute.

fair enough who has impressed you the most, i think brown is playing quite well.

Same thoughts with Brown. Cheeky corner he won earlier and seems to have a good engine on him.

if he had stayed at westbrom he would have played a load of games, i dont understand why he went to chelsea. Theres a few i think will make it i.e. ledson, roberts, brown

 

[BigOscar]

Feel free to call me negative, but I'm not at all impressed by the english team. It's not so much their ability, it's the fact that we are teaching even the youngest players to sit back and defend, try and hit the opposition on the break or with set pieces. They've pressed well from the front, but they are packing the defence and giving the ball away so cheaply, I just find it enfuriating that this is the style we apparently teach.

The Dutch have struggled to break us down (as you would expect of kids playing against a packed defence), but they at least are willing to move the ball around, keeping possession and trying to find a pass through. They are hugely struggling to cope with the physicality of the english defence and the sheer amount of players they have to try and get past, but I'd far rather our kids played like that and lost than played the way they are and won. They are never going to learn how to be comfortable on the ball, or how to recycle possession or play in tight spaces if you don't encourage it at youth level. Setting up an U17 team with the main aim of being "hard to break down" just depresses me

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Feel free to call me negative, but I'm not at all impressed by the english team. It's not so much their ability, it's the fact that we are teaching even the youngest players to sit back and defend, try and hit the opposition on the break or with set pieces. They've pressed well from the front, but they are packing the defence and giving the ball away so cheaply, I just find it enfuriating that this is the style we apparently teach.

The Dutch have struggled to break us down (as you would expect of kids playing against a packed defence), but they at least are willing to move the ball around, keeping possession and trying to find a pass through. They are hugely struggling to cope with the physicality of the english defence and the sheer amount of players they have to try and get past, but I'd far rather our kids played like that and lost than played the way they are and won. They are never going to learn how to be comfortable on the ball, or how to recycle possession or play in tight spaces if you don't encourage it at youth level. Setting up an U17 team with the main aim of being "hard to break down" just depresses me

thats a fair opinion, but i personally dont think we have played that bad, from watching the games this tournament i think there has been more of a focus on passing and I think we have played some really good technical football. i dont think there has been much hoof ball tbh. some of our players do seem a lot bigger, but then there are the like of roberts who are very small agile player who you probably wouldn't have seen under say stuart pearce if he was the coach

 

[BigOscar]

Feel free to call me negative, but I'm not at all impressed by the english team. It's not so much their ability, it's the fact that we are teaching even the youngest players to sit back and defend, try and hit the opposition on the break or with set pieces. They've pressed well from the front, but they are packing the defence and giving the ball away so cheaply, I just find it enfuriating that this is the style we apparently teach.

The Dutch have struggled to break us down (as you would expect of kids playing against a packed defence), but they at least are willing to move the ball around, keeping possession and trying to find a pass through. They are hugely struggling to cope with the physicality of the english defence and the sheer amount of players they have to try and get past, but I'd far rather our kids played like that and lost than played the way they are and won. They are never going to learn how to be comfortable on the ball, or how to recycle possession or play in tight spaces if you don't encourage it at youth level. Setting up an U17 team with the main aim of being "hard to break down" just depresses me

thats a fair opinion, but i personally dont think we have played that bad, from watching the games this tournament i think there has been more of a focus on passing and I think we have played some really good technical football. i dont think there has been much hoof ball tbh. some of our players do seem a lot bigger, but then there are the like of roberts who are very small agile player who you probably wouldn't have seen under say stuart pearce if he was the coach

I think it's the lack of interplay that annoys me. When the defenders have the ball, the midfielders just stand still, no one moves at all then they hit a long diagonal (usually succesfully, as the attackers are physically dominant). It's exactly the same at all levels for England.

There is just so much physicality on display, compared to smart movement or even a willingness to play the short pass. Yes, if you have the physical advantage then using it will get you results, but you end up missing out on the development that will actually be helpful when physicality stops playing such an important role.