ZebraVicar
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A lone deserted dinner....
UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences
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jimharri
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Watching the Forest vs Bottlers game earlier on, it suddenly all made sense.
SkyBlueFlux
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Just to be a little bit pedantic - we can't come up with laws of physics, they are true by definition and are discovered. A scientific law is a statement of observed phenomena. They aren't an attempt to explain the phenomena. What I think you mean (without wanting to presume) is that a lot of these laws start out appearing quite simple in easily observed nature, but our interpretation breaks down in certain extreme cases and so we can hone our understanding of laws over time.
What some physicists do is look for these extreme edge cases where our knowledge of laws no longer hold and in doing so they sometimes improve our understanding of the laws so that they can describe those edge cases.
In terms of travelling long distances, the laws of physics as you rightly say are prohibitive. You simply can't travel at lightspeed conventionally because the faster you go the more your relativistic mass increases and the amount of energy you need to go faster goes up exponentially. There's also time dilation, it's all very Flight of the Navigator.
An advanced civilisation could know much more about these extremes where the laws of physics as we know them break down. And so really there is no way of knowing how quickly they might be able to traverse space. For example, with enough mass, you can make space-time do some really funky stuff. Wormholes are one well-known theoretical example of this.
I have a passing interest in UFO stuff, just because I'm living for the day something interesting might happen to my life. I don't really believe in anything I've seen relating to UFOs/UAPs, including the OP, because none of it has ever met my standard of evidence, however it is a great source of entertainment for me. I stumbled upon this thread a few days ago about a "supposed whistleblower" on 4chan who is dying of cancer and so has spilled the beans online. It seems like obvious bollocks but I do commend him on how he has at least created an air of plausability.
Link here. Warning it is very very very long.
FlemishDuck
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Nolans outing seems more of a somewhat different nature to the typical UFO claims, which kinda seems to speak somewhat for his motivation even in comming out, and the message or political agenda he wants persued with it
So, apparently it goes something like: He is contacted by the CIA and certain defense contracters who have "anomalous objects", and certain of their people who study those objects get sick. It is logical for this reason that they would want the blood of these afflicted people researched as to attain a better picture of the affliction, and it just happens that he has the best technoligy and devices which he helped develop to study it, therefore they come to him. He studies these blood sample's and his scientific methodoligy and results of his study automaticly comes to evoke a desire for him to have these anomalous objects studied, as his own study kinda lead to the conclusion that these objects are foremost the common factor to the anomalous affliction, thus theres a limit to how far the affliction can be understood depending on how well the anomaly is understood. But he finds that his desire for further and more complete study gets barred by secrecy and non disclosure, and this seems to be driving him to the media with a message that "we should investigate all the data" and that these anomalies should be brought out of secrecy and be given free access for study by the brightest minds.
In itself i think i don't i disagree with him that it should be all open for (controlled) study, his claim seems to be that trough time much of the anomalous objects and data have become property of defense contractors in particular the aerospace industry who have interest in keeping much of it to themselves to do reverse engineering and commercialse certain findings comming from it, whereas the state has some reason to keep those findings from the eyes of their rivals.
So, apparently it goes something like: He is contacted by the CIA and certain defense contracters who have "anomalous objects", and certain of their people who study those objects get sick. It is logical for this reason that they would want the blood of these afflicted people researched as to attain a better picture of the affliction, and it just happens that he has the best technoligy and devices which he helped develop to study it, therefore they come to him. He studies these blood sample's and his scientific methodoligy and results of his study automaticly comes to evoke a desire for him to have these anomalous objects studied, as his own study kinda lead to the conclusion that these objects are foremost the common factor to the anomalous affliction, thus theres a limit to how far the affliction can be understood depending on how well the anomaly is understood. But he finds that his desire for further and more complete study gets barred by secrecy and non disclosure, and this seems to be driving him to the media with a message that "we should investigate all the data" and that these anomalies should be brought out of secrecy and be given free access for study by the brightest minds.
In itself i think i don't i disagree with him that it should be all open for (controlled) study, his claim seems to be that trough time much of the anomalous objects and data have become property of defense contractors in particular the aerospace industry who have interest in keeping much of it to themselves to do reverse engineering and commercialse certain findings comming from it, whereas the state has some reason to keep those findings from the eyes of their rivals.
Bill Walker
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Err...excuse me, whilst we didn't get to the Moon in 1969 we have made worthwhile contributions to mankind !! (not including Rolph Harris of course)
20 Australian inventions that changed the world - Australian Geographic
Australians can be an ingenious bunch. Here are some of the best inventions to have come out of the nation.
www.australiangeographic.com.au
NZBlue
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Very impressive, but unfortunately I can cancel all that good out with one simple statementErr...excuse me, whilst we didn't get to the Moon in 1969 we have made worthwhile contributions to mankind !! (not including Rolph Harris of course)
20 Australian inventions that changed the world - Australian Geographic
Australians can be an ingenious bunch. Here are some of the best inventions to have come out of the nation.
The shoey
Bill Walker
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Grassland Blue
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Inside every fat person are two regular sized people trying to escape....
Bill Walker
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Or three
Grassland Blue
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Why would these aliens of superior intelligence even bother coming to earth anyway.
In reality our planet is probably less significant than Wout Weghorst is in football.....