UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Naah. I am willing to accept a lot for the sake of discussion, but I can't see how this isn't all bollocks.

I am supposed to believe an alien race advanced enough to cross interstellar space isn't smart enough to remain undetected from the planets puny detection capabilities and in a desperate attempt to remain so, occasionally buzzes the odd airplane? I just don't see it, unless they are "teasers".

For those that don't understand the reference:

"Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them.” “Buzz them?” Arthur began to feel that Ford was enjoying making life difficult for him. “Yeah,” said Ford, “they buzz them. They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one’s ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises."

“All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was."
"No," said the old man, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that."
"Everyone?" said Arthur.
"Well, if everyone has that perhaps it means something!
Perhaps somewhere outside the Universe we know..."
"Maybe. Who cares?" said Slartibartfast before Arthur got too excited. "Perhaps I'm old and tired," he continued, "but I always think that the chances of finding what out really is going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied.”

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think the inference is that we have (by we i mean earthling human types) shot down alien craft (UAP's) or that we have contacted them.

It's pretty easy for the US government to show what they do have and shut folk up. What's odd is that it's all still heavily classified. If you had evidence to say there's nothing, you'd show it no?

It could be bollocks. It also might not be.

It's obvious somewhere there is likely to be species not of earth, wherever or whoever they may be and how developed they are is another matter.

Just want to know either way.

Fair enough. That is a fairly basic human need that I share to an extent.

But I am still firmly in the "if an alien race has the technology to travel from star to star, then they would easily be advanced enough to hide it from us" camp.

On the wider points: yes I am sure there is extra-terrestrial life in the galaxy, most probably some intelligent life and possibly some so intelligent that they have solved scientific puzzles that we haven't even thought of yet so they can travel between stars. Only human arrogance would think we currently know everything about the laws of the universe that there is to know.

It's all absolutely fascinating. But talking now to little green men? Shooting them down 70 years ago? Nope, not for me.

 

[johnny crossan]

Fair enough. That is a fairly basic human need that I share to an extent.

But I am still firmly in the "if an alien race has the technology to travel from star to star, then they would easily be advanced enough to hide it from us" camp.

On the wider points: yes I am sure there is intelligent extra-terrestrial life in the galaxy, most probably some intelligent life and possibly some so intelligent that they have solved scientific puzzles that we haven't even thought of yet so they can travel between stars. Only human arrogance would think we currently know everything about the laws of the universe that there is to know.

It's all absolutely fascinating. But talking now to little green men? Shooting them down 70 years ago? Nope, not for me.

I remember Brian Cox being slaughtered by UFO enthusiasts after musing that if there were intelligent life elsewhere in the universe it would have got in touch by now - think he revised then the empty zone as just our galaxy. The 'Fermi Paradox' apparently, sounds reasonable enough but probably an incendiary proposition on here!

BBC Four - Human Universe, Are We Alone?

Brian considers the possibility of alien life - could it exist and will we ever find it?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Magicpole]

Give us a shout when they arrive.

 

[blueparrot]

I think the inference is that we have (by we i mean earthling human types) shot down alien craft (UAP's) or that we have contacted them.

It's pretty easy for the US government to show what they do have and shut folk up. What's odd is that it's all still heavily classified. If you had evidence to say there's nothing, you'd show it no?

It could be bollocks. It also might not be.

It's obvious somewhere there is likely to be species not of earth, wherever or whoever they may be and how developed they are is another matter.

Just want to know either way.

You can’t know for sure either way.All you can know is we have no evidence of any other intelligent life in our solar system, in our galaxy or in our universe. Nothing, people can theorise all they like but as it stands that’s all it is theories some of them bonkers,there is’t any evidence. Whether you decide to believe that or not is down to yourself. How could the US show no evidence? Why is is it always the US government?

 

[Dage]

It's not only the US, most big countries, including the UK do respective reports. And there are dozens of good reasons to not reveal evidence.

 

[ysmsa]

ET, phone home

Made today,

"ET whatsapp"

Sounds shite.

 

[blueparrot]

It's not only the US, most big countries, including the UK do respective reports. And there are dozens of good reasons to not reveal evidence.

The main one being there is no evidence. Most sky / watching is done by amateurs not governments. Many discoveries are made by amateurs and enthusiasts.You can book time on some of the biggest most powerful telescopes on earth. There is no evidence. Somebody has to be the most advanced life form in the universe. As unlikely as it may seem it is possible it’s us, will we ever be able to travel to other star systems or another galaxy even , yes it is more than possible we never will.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

The main one being there is no evidence. Most sky / watching is done by amateurs not governments. Many discoveries are made by amateurs and enthusiasts.You can book time on some of the biggest most powerful telescopes on earth. There is no evidence. Somebody has to be the most advanced life form in the universe. As unlikely as it may seem it is possible it’s us, will we ever be able to travel to other star systems or another galaxy even , yes it is more than possible we never will.

We are babies in regards to civilisation. New borns infact.

There will be countless civilisations out there who are that far advanced compared to us it’s unthinkable, so it’s more than likely that they have long been able to travel distances we can’t even comprehend.

 

[blueparrot]

We are babies in regards to civilisation. New borns infact.

There will be countless civilisations out there who are that far advanced compared to us it’s unthinkable, so it’s more than likely that they have long been able to travel distances we can’t even comprehend.

Maybe but we don’t know that ,we have no evidence to back that up. We just don’t know. We do know there is no evidence any have ever visited earth or even our solar system.
Saying there will be is just a guess, one that’s easy to make because we can’t comprehend the size of the universe, or even the galaxy we inhabit.