UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[MillionMilesAway]

Ziegler (Times) wrote this for the weekend paper:

"Manchester City’s participation in next season’s Champions League appears secure because the investigations into their alleged breaches of the financial fair play rules are still some way off a conclusion.

The Times understands that Uefa’s club financial control body is due to meet next week to review a case that is focused on hacked documents — published by the German magazine Der Spiegel — which suggest that City’s Abu Dhabi owners inflated sponsorship deals with their own money in an attempt to circumvent strict FFP rules.

It is unlikely that any decision on possible sanctions will be reached next week, raising the possibility that any process that results in City’s expulsion from the Champions League will run beyond a point where Uefa can kick them…"

The hearing being this week is obviously fairly open knowledge.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

Its shit or get off the pot time.
To extend any kind of investigation further is getting ridiculous. They have had since 2014 to discover any FURTHER discrepancies in breach of their fucking rules after sanctioning us for exactly that 6 years ago. Isn't the statute of limitation for breaches of financial law (the fucking law not a set of corrupt fucking rules) 6 years?
Now they are stretching it out beyond this so they can discuss the proberty of stolen evidence by an individual who is facing pokey for a very long time for being a thieving, conniving, blackmailing twat. If there was a smoking gun in all this Der Spiegel "evidence" we would have heard about it by now and they would have acted. Evidently there is not so a case based on hearsay and stolen emails with no context. Fuck Off UEFA!

 

[Centurions]

Its shit or get off the pot time.
To extend any kind of investigation further is getting ridiculous. They have had since 2014 to discover any FURTHER discrepancies in breach of their fucking rules after sanctioning us for exactly that 6 years ago. Isn't the statute of limitation for breaches of financial law (the fucking law not a set of corrupt fucking rules) 6 years?
Now they are stretching it out beyond this so they can discuss the proberty of stolen evidence by an individual who is facing pokey for a very long time for being a thieving, conniving, blackmailing twat. If there was a smoking gun in all this Der Spiegel "evidence" we would have heard about it by now and they would have acted. Evidently there is not so a case based on hearsay and stolen emails with no context. Fuck Off UEFA!

Their own rules state 5 years which is why they were left with egg on their face in the case of PSG and why they rushed it up to the upper chamber in our case.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Ziegler (Times) wrote this for the weekend paper:

"Manchester City’s participation in next season’s Champions League appears secure because the investigations into their alleged breaches of the financial fair play rules are still some way off a conclusion.

The Times understands that Uefa’s club financial control body is due to meet next week to review a case that is focused on hacked documents — published by the German magazine Der Spiegel — which suggest that City’s Abu Dhabi owners inflated sponsorship deals with their own money in an attempt to circumvent strict FFP rules.

It is unlikely that any decision on possible sanctions will be reached next week, raising the possibility that any process that results in City’s expulsion from the Champions League will run beyond a point where Uefa can kick them…"

The hearing being this week is obviously fairly open knowledge.

Interesting that Ziegler says hacked documents. He’s not exactly been positive on City in this process but the fast he acknowledges the documents were hacked is a surprise. Conn in his articles yesterday mentioned leaked documents.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Interesting that Ziegler says hacked documents. He’s not exactly been positive on City in this process but the fast he acknowledges the documents were hacked is a surprise. Conn in his articles yesterday mentioned leaked documents.

He's the one who's posted about the Liverpool scouting thing as well. I don't recall the tone of what he's posted before about City, but other stuff of his I've seen has been okay.

It may just be that because the club are not giving them any rebuttal, articles are bound to be one-sided.

 

[nmc]

The UEFA meeting will be a shambles... the usual suspects will be demanding we are punished and banned despite their being no evidence to support such a sanction. I think it’s pretty obvious that the top brass at UEFA have tried and failed to do a deal with us so they will need to decide if they are prepared to hit the nuclear button now and face complete ruin. Shit is about to get real.

 

[Robanompivenov]

David Conn has rehashed his same story I see. Fucking fraud that fella, how he claims to be a blue is beyond me.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Ziegler (Times) wrote this for the weekend paper:

"Manchester City’s participation in next season’s Champions League appears secure because the investigations into their alleged breaches of the financial fair play rules are still some way off a conclusion.

The Times understands that Uefa’s club financial control body is due to meet next week to review a case that is focused on hacked documents — published by the German magazine Der Spiegel — which suggest that City’s Abu Dhabi owners inflated sponsorship deals with their own money in an attempt to circumvent strict FFP rules.

It is unlikely that any decision on possible sanctions will be reached next week, raising the possibility that any process that results in City’s expulsion from the Champions League will run beyond a point where Uefa can kick them…"

The hearing being this week is obviously fairly open knowledge.

I think it's clear that the Times is now fully in the loop (it took them long enough) Ziegler is saying what most on this forum have known for over 12 months and something which has been widely reported elsewhere in the world. It is not possible for UEFA to take action against City based on information stolen by an international fraudster who has been charged with a huge blackmail plot involving tens of millions of hacked documents. Even if UEFA had the emails in their possession, which seems very unlikely, it would be a huge legal risk for them to take on City. UEFA would be staking everything on Der Spiegel (a magazine which is currently under investigation for publishing fake news) and material stolen by an international criminal. Even this is assuming that the emails are even accurate because City (who presumably do possess the emails) have said the allegations are false and out of context.

 

[WRicko]

I am sick to death with the shit press/media in the this country. Why is it against the 'rules' for a business person to but a company and invest as much money as he wants to try and make it a success. These rules were only brought in after the City take over. I would have thought these rules were against some sort of freedom to trade as it reduces your chances of making your company successful. Sounds like forming a cartel a monopoly to protect the old business, which I thought wasnt allowed in business.

I dont understand finance and law as I am just a simply bloke but from the out side looking in it looks like the big 14 trying to stop new comers which I thought was against European trading law or something like that.

Their position is even more surprising when you look at the tax, company structure, pension arrangements, personal tax and other business arrangements of the owners of the media.

Four reasons the papers backed Brexit EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive, Racism, Selling papers and avoiding blaming the Tories for our ills

Reasons the Tory party and its super rich donor supported Brexit, EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive, Racism, avoiding blame and disaster capitalism

These rules possibly Break EU rules but their are vague exceptions for sport but they would defiantly break EU rules if we operated in a different sector.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

David Conn has rehashed his same story I see. Fucking fraud that fella, how he claims to be a blue is beyond me.

He’s also written an article lauding FSG’s running of Liverpool. There’s no stopping Conn job